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The Fury said:
method114 said:

This whole situation seemed really overblown. Oh well Sony should just make it optional but give players cross progression and some rewards for signing up. Just make the rewards really worth it and that will get most of the player base to sign up.

Completely, as I'm sure that a lot of the players of HD2 on PC via Steam play(ed) Apex as well, which requires an EA account. But all those suggestions seem like seems like the good compromise. "Here's some free stuff for doing it." But the key is that if it was like it from the start (as in no issues) then there might never have been an issue and people that didn't have a PS account and bought it wouldn't have even carried on playing and just refunded.

It's the fact it was removed then added later as a forced thing was just stupid and how it was handled sounded like some idiot executive was oddly more concerned over consumer data than profit. You know, useless data of fake emails and burner accounts.

Signalstar said:

There is still an issue here. It's not fair console players have to pay a subscription to play multiplayer but PC players don't. If Sony is going to continue supporting PC like this the issue is only going to grow.

Yes, agreed. Blame MS for that though, they started it. Sony would have been stupid to not follow suit whether we like it or not.

G2ThaUNiT said:

 It would require a massive, and expensive, undertaking for Xbox, Nintendo, and PlayStation to change how their infrastructure functions that would allow for them to still receive the necessary funding to keep an absurd number of servers up and maintained while still making a profit. They already take losses on console sales, minus Nintendo, so idk how willing they would be to also take losses on server infrastructure. 

Valve was pretty smart in keeping themselves to just be an online store and not also a networking hub for all multiplayer games on Steam.

That or game costs go up. Again. And people are very against that even though in the modern gaming era where game costs are more expensive than ever. With massive teams to fund, server costs etc, seems the best way of maintaining those costs is subbed online.

MS, Nintendo and Sony do add a lot of features for this price though, free games, cloud storage, share play (only PS right?) which PC does not have.

My friend recently booted up the PS4 version of Last Of Us that was free on PS+ and imported his PS3 saves from like a decade ago.

This is also not true. Epic games gives free games every month for nothing, steam and gog does it sometimes too.

Epic games and steam all have cloud saves.

So what exactly is people paying for on consoles?. online should be free the extras should be optional. but i do blame ms for this, sony just seen how much money they was making and joined in now Nintendo too