The_Yoda said:
I agree with this and that is one of the reasons early in the thread I asked you about your use of the term Genocide as I think it is mis-used in relation to this conflict. Bill Maher sums it up pretty well in the last 15 seconds of this video. I clipped it because much of the first part I don't believe is applicable to you. |
I go by the Geneva convention definition, which I've posted in the thread a couple times.
https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/atrocity-crimes/Doc.1_Convention%20on%20the%20Prevention%20and%20Punishment%20of%20the%20Crime%20of%20Genocide.pdf
Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
a) Killing members of the group;
b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its
physical destruction in whole or in part;
d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
Article III
The following acts shall be punishable:
a) Genocide;
b) Conspiracy to commit genocide;
c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide
The ICJ has found genocide plausible in Gaza based on II a), b) and c), as well as III c)
The (attempt at) destruction of the Palestinian identity is clear by the destruction of cultural sites, archives, universities, mosques, museums. Next to attacking UNWRA to get rid of the right of return.
Imo II d) starts to apply as well with the total destruction of the health care system and not allowing any neonatal supplies in.
https://www.rescue.org/press-release/pregnant-women-and-mothers-gaza-are-fighting-keep-themselves-and-their-babies-alive
III b) is debatable, although Neo-Zionism basically says that. Ultra-right wing Settlers are definitely after ethically cleansing the entire biblical area.
Genocide is not measured by how many were killed or by actually wiping out the majority of a group. That's a holocaust.
Bill Maher does say Genocide is when you want to wipe out an entire people. That doesn't mean actually killing all the people. Israel denies Palestinians their identity, does not want a Palestinian state, and does everything to attack Palestinian culture while dehumanizing Palestinians in general.
Then he goes on that's it is the stated goal of Hamas, ignoring the 2017 changes in policy when Hamas realized that it was getting them nowhere.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hamas-2017-document-full
16. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.
17. Hamas rejects the persecution of any human being or the undermining of his or her rights on nationalist, religious or sectarian grounds. Hamas is of the view that the Jewish problem, anti-Semitism and the persecution of the Jews are phenomena fundamentally linked to European history and not to the history of the Arabs and the Muslims or to their heritage. The Zionist movement, which was able with the help of Western powers to occupy Palestine, is the most dangerous form of settlement occupation which has already disappeared from much of the world and must disappear from Palestine.
20. Hamas believes that no part of the land of Palestine shall be compromised or conceded, irrespective of the causes, the circumstances and the pressures and no matter how long the occupation lasts. Hamas rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea. However, without compromising its rejection of the Zionist entity and without relinquishing any Palestinian rights, Hamas considers the establishment of a fully sovereign and independent Palestinian state, with Jerusalem as its capital along the lines of the 4th of June 1967, with the return of the refugees and the displaced to their homes from which they were expelled, to be a formula of national consensus.
There is no call for genocide in there, the fight is against the colonial form of Zionism.
The year after Gazans tried mass peaceful demonstrations to get heard which were met with brutal violence from the IDF
https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2019/mar/29/a-year-of-bloodshed-at-gaza-border-protests
Whether or not Hamas wants to kill Israelis is kinda moot though while Israel is currently in the process of mass murdering Palestinians and always has been
How can Israel continue to play the victim with stats like that?
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