Russia and Ukraine flashpoint

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Ryuu96 said:

Interesting thread on the Polish role in early Ukr peace talks. Says Polish special forces provided security for the Ukrainian delegation, and that the Ukr negotiators and their families were threatened by Russian officials. https://t.co/boKnlDqM8A

— Shashank Joshi (@shashj) April 16, 2024

🧵 This is already making rounds, so I will try to shed some more light on March/April 2022 Ukraine-Russia talks since the article is still far from the point, and because Poland played a much bigger role than anyone is willing to admit publiclyhttps://t.co/wqbyHL1LDM

— Daniel Szeligowski (@dszeligowski) April 16, 2024

We were never close to any deal. Russia never negotiated in good faith. Moscow sent a delegation that was composed of the most anti-Ukrainian officials you can imagine. Their goal was to present the Ukrainian side with an ultimatum, not to *negotiate*https://t.co/Bd1Cn62HN3

— Daniel Szeligowski (@dszeligowski) April 16, 2024

While still in Belarus, the Russian delegation openly suggested to the Ukrainian delegation that they declare capitulation. Ukrainians responded with a now legendary sentence: иди на хуй (roughly: f* off)

— Daniel Szeligowski (@dszeligowski) April 16, 2024

Russia never abandoned its maximalist goal. Realising that the plan to seize Kyiv "in three days" had failed, Moscow wanted to subjugate Ukraine at the negotiating table, but missed the moment when the fortune turned in favour of Ukraine and they were thrown out from Kyiv region

— Daniel Szeligowski (@dszeligowski) April 16, 2024

Yes, Ukraine was ready to make concessions, but they were conditional on western security guarantees, which the West was ultimately not ready to give (one reason was that our western colleagues simply did not know much about the talks as such)

— Daniel Szeligowski (@dszeligowski) April 16, 2024

And then Bucha came. The scale of Russian crimes was so huge that it shocked even the Polish side (which, after all, has experienced Russian atrocities itself). Further talks with Russia were simply no-go for Zelensky, especially that Russian troops were already on defensive

— Daniel Szeligowski (@dszeligowski) April 16, 2024

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One of the most significant current battles in Ukraine is taking place in the small city of Chasiv Yar.

In this thread, I will analyze the current situation, defensive preparations, terrain, participating units, various scenarios and future developments. 1/ pic.twitter.com/IV33Sd88UP

— Emil Kastehelmi (@emilkastehelmi) April 16, 2024

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Pisses me off seeing some pretending peace or a deal was ever in sight.