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Oh and they constantly try to make up bullshit drama about Bethesda not liking Obsidian or Bethesda not liking Fallout 1-2/New Vegas or trying to make up some imaginary scenario that the OG Fallout creators despise Bethesda and all that, there's posts that the OG Fallout creators can't say anything bad about the show because Bethesda will ruin their careers, bro, Tim Cain is fucking retired, Lmfao.

Meanwhile the OG Fallout creators have straight up said that they like Bethesda's Fallout, they've gone out their way to praise multiple aspects of Bethesda's Fallout and they've essentially told OG Fallout fans to stop being fucking weirdos and attacking developers, albeit they put it in a much nicer way than I did, Tim Cain had to tell people to stop attacking Brian Fargo even for something that happened between Tim and Brian 25 years ago!

It's like at some point every fanbase of every IP splits in half and you have one half permanently bitter and crying about every little thing, especially when the OG creators are no longer involved and another half just enjoying things but constantly being screamed at in their face to stop enjoying it because it's shit and it's sacrilege to the original creators and their vision and the original creators are like "Bro...Stop"