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Chrkeller said:

Enjoy the ocean floor.  I hear it is lovely.   ðŸ˜€ 

I've said my peace.  I don't support debt forgiveness.  I'm entitled to my opinion.

In the analogy, you're the one pushing us down to the ocean floor. 

Just like you're entitled to your opinion, we're entitled to ours, and we're allowed to discuss it. That's what forums like these are for. 

If you don't want to be part of the discussion anymore, you don't have to be. We're not forcing you to come back against your will. 

Chrkeller said:

Biggerboat1 I think it 100% spot on.  Lots of middle aisle people feel that way.  A few years ago I was a hardcore  Democrat, not so much anymore.  Largely because Democrat's force assimilation, you can't even think slightly out of party lines...  see this thread for example. 

I personally don't view myself as a democrat, other than they're the only alternative to Republicanism.

I'm not a mainstream Democrat in any way, shape or form. 

Chrkeller said:

I've gotten next to no respect despite valid points and agreeing on most other topics.  Democrats are all or nothing these days.  A shame to see free thought be discouraged.

Everyone thinks of their own views as being generally valid, that doesn't mean that they all are. A lot of people think all of Trump's points are valid, I think you would disagree with that. 

The issue isn't "free thought". Everyone has free thought, but that doesn't mean all the ideas are good. Some of us like discussing why we feel ideas are not productive or why they're outright bad.

If I've been disrespectful to you, I apologize. 

Personally I'm tired. I'm tired of people letting the world continue to get worse because "freedom", "individual responsibility".