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EricHiggin said:

JEMC said:

Good question!

In my opinion, it's open to interpretation. I never saw those Vega, Fury and the Radeon VII cards with the fancy HBM memory as regular consumer cards. They felt like enterprise grade products that AMD repurposed for gaming in a rather futile intent to bring something that could compete with Nvidia, but they were too expensive and power hungry (how times change!).

The fact that both architectures coexisted for a limited time only shows that AMD didn't try to have a high end part with the RDNA cards and had to rely on another iteration of GCN that was, if we're honest, kind of  half assed.

Well the RTX 4000 cards aren't exactly power efficient or cheap, not to mention the 4090, which doesn't exactly feel like a consumer grade card unless you want to deem it a halo flagship product as well. I mean does the 4090 not count at all then?

You also have the RX 7900 branding when it should really be 7800, which AMD did to try to appear to be competing with the highest Nvidia tier, so would it really count for them to be truly competing this generation either?

To keep from muddying the waters too much, to me it looks like the times that are clear when AMD only aimed at mid tier generations were the 400/500 series and the upcoming 8000 series.

Like haxxiy said, the 4090 is very power hungry, but the performance is such that makes for quite an efficient card. Meanwhile, the Radeon VII used almost 100W more than the 2080 and fell short of it. That's why its power consumption was a problem. For reference, the 5700XT used roughly 50W more then the 2070, but at least it managed to trade blows with it, so it was less of a problem. Also times change and comparing the power consumption of the cards of today to the consumption of cards from two gens ago is misleading.

I won't get into the naming scheme because that's a very slippery rope. AMD's 7800XT xhould have been a better recieved card had it been called 7800, and the 7900GRE should have been the 7800XT. The other two 7900 cards are ok... but that has nothing to do with what we were discussing.

In any case, I don't think we'll reach an agreement.