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EricHiggin said:

JEMC said:

The last time AMD only had mid tier cards was with the first RDNA cards in the form of the RX 5000 series, topping out with the 5700 XT, which was a farily competitive card, tying with the 2070 in raster (the first gen RDNA cards didn't have ray tracing hardware in them).

What about Vega VII? Wasn't that supposed to be the high end flagship that competed with the 2080? I know it's not quite typical since Vega was the old GCN arch and RDNA was the new arch, but AMD did make the effort to attempt to compete with something. Whereas they didn't bother with GCN4 (Polaris) and it sounds right now like they won't with RDNA4, and both are when the mid gen console upgrades happened.

Good question!

In my opinion, it's open to interpretation. I never saw those Vega, Fury and the Radeon VII cards with the fancy HBM memory as regular consumer cards. They felt like enterprise grade products that AMD repurposed for gaming in a rather futile intent to bring something that could compete with Nvidia, but they were too expensive and power hungry (how times change!).

The fact that both architectures coexisted for a limited time only shows that AMD didn't try to have a high end part with the RDNA cards and had to rely on another iteration of GCN that was, if we're honest, kind of  half assed.

Bofferbrauer2 said:

JEMC said:

The 6800 performs about the same as the 7700XT:

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-6800.c3713

And that's kind of my problem with AMD cards, they have too many cards within 10-15% of each other. It's also the reason I hope they change the memory of the new cards to diferentiate them.

Okay, going from that graph I would then say between the 7700XT and the RTX 3070 (non-Ti)

I'd say it's not just AMD that has that problem. Just look at 3060 vs 4060 or in the graph you provided the 3070 and 3070Ti, or the new SUPER updates.

What Nvidia did with their lower end cards is shameful. The 4060 didn't beat the 3060Ti... and neither could the 4060Ti! And when it comes to AMD, well, the entire RDNA3 lineup fell short, with the 7600 only bareky able to match the 6600/6650XT, and the 7800XT tying with the 6800XT.

For those outside of the high end, the last gen of cards were extremely disappointing.

Let's hope the new ones can do better than that. After all it'll be hard to do it worse.

Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

NVIDIA board partners expect GeForce RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 to launch in fourth quarter

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-board-partners-expect-geforce-rtx-5090-and-rtx-5080-to-launch-in-fourth-quarter

I'll likely skip

How come? Is the 4090 enough for you for the time being?

Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Chinese board partners are adjusting prices for several RTX 30/40 models

https://videocardz.com/newz/chinese-board-partners-are-adjusting-prices-for-several-rtx-30-40-models

(Updated) AMD Ryzen 9000 “Granite Ridge” desktop ES CPU with 8 Zen5 cores has been pictured

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-9000-granite-ridge-desktop-es-cpu-with-8-zen5-cores-has-been-pictured

The fact that the price increase affects mostly the low end parts makes me angry.

And I hadn't noticed the update of the Zen5 CPU article. Thanks for that!