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RolStoppable said:
Ryuu96 said:

Ukraine: No.

Fuck off Trump.

Russia wouldn't have agreed either. How naive the Donald is to think that Russia would cede Cherson and Zapo to Ukraine.

Yeah and they've already publicly said multiple times they want Odesa still and up to Kyiv but I think arguably Odesa may be more important to them because they can cut Ukraine off from the sea completely and expand their control of the Black Sea, it would also link them with Transnistria and Moldova will be far easier to take than Ukraine.

Russia keeping Donbas as a whole would still be a net gain and reward for them, as they didn't and still don't control all of Donbas and rewards them with Mariupol, another key port city, it basically tells Russia to restore their military and try again in the future, then we'll make another "peace" deal with them, keep whatever you take next in exchange for "peace" and keep doing that.

The only way to guarantee Ukraine's safety in a territory concession would be Ukraine's immediate ascension into NATO, like within weeks, so Russia doesn't start any minor village conflicts to scare other countries into not approving Ukraine's NATO bid, I don't see this as a likely scenario at all and also, fuck Russia, they don't deserve shit and Ukraine shouldn't have to give up anything.

IIRC Donbas is a wealth of resources as well, heavy metals and coal, another reason Russia wants it so much.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 07 April 2024