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Bofferbrauer2 said:

haxxiy said:

So RDNA4 will seemingly be just mid-tier cards and the rumored GeForce 50 series B203 has just 96 SMs (vs. 84 for the 4080) meaning the rest of the descending stack will also be small improvements. Both will also remain in the same 5-4nm node.

Is anyone who updated this generation feeling good yet?

I also honestly don't think we'll see a B202 GPU released, at least not for consumer prices like the 4090. Why would Nvidia when that could compete with the Teslas in inference like the 4090 does? It'll probably be canned like the 4090 Ti.

The big unknown with RDNA4 is the memory. Will that 8800XT come with a 256 bit bus and 16GB VRAM or will there be more? Considering that the purported performance will be roughly on par with the 7900XT, which comes with 20GB, a 320 bit bus seems more appropriate - but at the same time too big for a non-high-end card.

My RDNA4 expectations:

1. 8800XT: 72CU, 320 bit bus, 20GB VRAM @24k MT/s, TBP ~250W, ~7900XT performance
2. 8700XT: 60CU, 256 bit bus, 16GB VRAM @22k MT/s, TBP ~210W, performance somewhat above 7800XT
3. 8600XT: 40CU, 192 bit bus, 12GB VRAM @22k MT/s, TBP ~170W, performance between 6750XT and 6800
4. 8500XT: 32CU, 128 bit bus, 08GB VRAM @20k MT/s, TBP ~140W, ~7600 performance

I agree with most of your post. I only disagree with the performance of the 8600, because a 6800 isn't much slower than the current 7800, and if the 8700 has that level of performance, that could lead to problems with those two cards.

At the same time, I really hope the 8600 gets the performance bump it didn't have this gen, so I have mixed feelings.

EricHiggin said:

Last time AMD Radeon only bothered with mid tier cards was the 400/500 Polaris series, which is also the same timeframe that PS4 Pro launched.
PS5 Pro is supposedly launching this holiday and now we're apparently only getting mid tier RDNA4 8000 series cards during the same timeframe.

I think I see a pattern.

The last time AMD only had mid tier cards was with the first RDNA cards in the form of the RX 5000 series, topping out with the 5700 XT, which was a farily competitive card, tying with the 2070 in raster (the first gen RDNA cards didn't have ray tracing hardware in them).