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EpicRandy said:
EspadaGrim said:

If it's a mandate/suggestion for their own 1st party game then it's fine they can do what they want, but honestly we know what they mean when they say exaggerated body proportions ie no Curvy Women, would this exaggerated body proportions also include Obese and Ripped body types as well for Women? This seems to suggest that they only have a problem with one which is stupid imo

we know what they mean when they say exaggerated body proportions ie no Curvy Women

I don't agree with that interpretation, Women can be curvy and yet remain proportional.

would this exaggerated body proportions also include Obese and Ripped body types as well for Women?

nothing suggests that this is the case. 

This seems to suggest that they only have a problem with one which is stupid

To me, it suggests they ask their dev to be more mindful of how they display female characters, it is not suggesting they have any problem with any sort of realistic female character design.

I just assumed it was because of the Sweet Baby inc, thingy.

MS doesn't want any blowback on them, so their toein the line, so to speak, and asking devs to be carefull.

EpicRandy, I feel like your mis-reading things, by being so litteral. Seeing the world through rose coloured glasses so to speak.
EspadaGrim hit the nail on the head imo. 

its just gonna result in "not normal proportional women", but ulgy ones in games :p
Its like its a sin to have beautifull models in games, or them being sexy.
Ignoreing the fact that like 90% of the gameing audience is male, and enjoys it.

You have a very vocal minority that seems to dictate what is acceptable or not.... and usually "sexy woman" is a no no.

So ontop of the current drama, with the sweet baby inc stuff  (which really is overblown, a list that shows which games they worked on, so people that dislike forced political messages in games, can choose not to buy said games...  meh), you get comments like "carefull about womens proportions".

EpicRandy said:

we know what they mean when they say exaggerated body proportions ie no Curvy Women

I don't agree with that interpretation, Women can be curvy and yet remain proportional.

would this exaggerated body proportions also include Obese and Ripped body types as well for Women?

nothing suggests that this is the case. 

This seems to suggest that they only have a problem with one which is stupid

To me, it suggests they ask their dev to be more mindful of how they display female characters, it is not suggesting they have any problem with any sort of realistic female character design.


You kinda even agree with him.
"would it be a issue if "body proprotions" to be carefull off, inclused obese people"
Nothing suggests that.

because these types of consultants that forced that stuff into games (the no sexy woman types) are all for ugly and fat ones in games.... you know it to be true, hence the "not a issue" commont on your part. Even if fat or grossly obese people in general are probably under represented in video games, it doesnt mean we should want to have that in games imo. Same with the body positivity movement, that then goes onto promote obese women, that are confortable in their skin.... its not healthy to have their lifestyle, and they ll die early deaths because of it (their weigth), they get glorrified and get to live off of modeling, while people cheer them on for not being ashamed of their obesity, its not a good thing.


"To me, it suggests they ask their dev to be more mindful of how they display female characters, it is not suggesting they have any problem with any sort of realistic female character design."

Supermodels are real... even if they make up a small tiny fraction of the whole population.
Is that then not a realistic female character design ?  Do all game characters have to be avg person looking? (or worse, lately theres alot of ugly female characters, while male characters are still being made to be ultra giga chads, without anyone paying any attention to it. Like being "thin" is alot easier to reach, than the muscles some of these male video characters in games have. Which are unrealistic, without steriod usage and liveing your life inside a gym)

This is not even me complaining about that, I'd rather a video game character look good (male or female) than not.
My thinking is just, let it be, if guys (who are the majority of consumers of said games) like good looking game characters, whats the harm in that?

Watch the next games from xbox, come out with ugly female characters, because phil made this comment :P

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 27 March 2024