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So we need 8 Republicans to break ranks now that three Democrats have refused to sign, Jayapal included.

Look, I get the Israel aid part is hard to stomach, I'm not particularly happy about it either but it's either this bill, or the much worse bill that Republicans have put forward which is worse for Ukraine, still provides Israel aid but completely removes humanitarian aid for Palestinians in Gaza, unlike the Senate bill which includes humanitarian aid.

One way or another, Israel is getting its aid, I'm sorry but it just is, there's too much political support in America for it and the Republicans control House, but the Ukraine aid is attached to Israel aid because Republicans support Israel aid a lot more than Ukraine aid, so you either keep 2 genocides going or help to end at least one of them.

And the fact is, this bill passed Senate, it should be voted on in House, what on Earth is the point in passing bills in Senate if one man can just decide to not bother with them in House? Mike Johnson is spitting all over democracy, this bill should go to a vote in House, that's democracy AOC, it shouldn't be for Mike Johnson to decide on his own.

The petition is not a vote on the aid, it's to bring the bill to a vote, sign the petition but vote against the bill when it comes to the House floor, it's that simple, like I said, one way or another, Israel aid will come, you can bring this bill to the floor, vote against it and maintain your stance of being against Israel aid, it also includes humanitarian aid.

Plus... Biden Order Attaches Human Rights Conditions to US Military Aid, Easing Democratic Rift Over Israel | AP News

The military aid isn't unconditional, if it isn't enforced then that's Biden to blame.

If you want to put pressure on Biden in regards to Israel aid, let me tell you, it'll be a lot fucking easier with a Democratic led Senate/House and it'd be impossible with Trump as president. Israel aid is supported more by Republicans/Republican Voters than Democrats/Democrat Voters so weaken the Republicans, kick them out, embarrass them and then you have a better shot.

Or we end up in a situation where Democrats are forced to pass the much worse Republican bill which decreases the amount for Ukraine, removes humanitarian aid completely, adds right wing border policies. The Democrats can't give Republicans that win, if Republicans win the election it's over for both Ukraine and Palestinians.

The solution can't be to wait until November either, so many Ukrainians will die due to that, likely pushing Russia to an advantage.

Let democracy happen, bring the bill to the floor and then vote against it then if you want.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 13 March 2024