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| crissindahouse said: about point 3: while it's true that NATO artillery production is ramping up, Russia also increases their production and doesn't stand still. It's not as if Russia is like "we are at war but we don't try to increase our production more and more". We also don't know when they will buy their next bunch of shells from Iran or somewhere else. |
Yeah, although Russia should theoretically hit bottlenecks lower than the West's full capability, our combined economies far exceed Russia's and with the right sanctions we can slow them down, Russia won't stop but the West is more than capable of not only matching Russia but exceeding them if they actually put significant effort into it. There's also things like the firing cannons themselves, the systems, all those will be worn down over time and need repairing/replacing.
We need to go round to every defence industry and buy every single shell they can possibly produce, to the very last one, we need to be throwing contracts left and right, I assume if Mike Johnson ever passes the bill, America will likely have a backlog waiting for Ukraine and yeah, America is essential for Ukraine, I don't think they can win without them, just the sheer size of their military and they just simply have a stronger defence industry than Europe does, one which America has more control over.
| EpicRandy said: There's also the fact that NATO isn't as tied to the artillery system as Russia and Ukraine are. I fully expect (for as long as Trump loses this November) that the longer this conflict lasts the more NATO will gradually arm Ukraine to be less reliant on artillery pieces and artillery shells. |
Idk if Ukraine can become less reliant on artillery for this specific war...Yeah, the West doesn't do artillery slogs anymore, their tactic is air superiority now, bomb the hell out of the enemy then send in the troops to clean up, Idk how this war for Ukraine can go beyond artillery slog though unless Ukraine achieves air superiority which is a long shot and they simply don't have anywhere near the air force able to achieve that.
