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Sogreblute said:
Hiku said:

2 of those 3 years you couldn't get a PS5, and had to win a lotttery just to have a chance to get one. And now the economy has changed quite a bit.
Saying everyone that wants a game would have it is nice in theory, but we see time and again how install base does affect sales.

PS4 was at around 9 Million units in Japan when Remake came out.
PS5 is at 5 Million. Close to half.


I would absolutely pick up this game, except I haven't gotten a PS5 yet. One or two games is not enough for me to get a new console these days when 95% of the games are still cross gen, and they're releasing new models of the system by the time it has enough games to warrant the purchase.

I'm currently playing Unicorn Overlord, Persona 3 Reload, Granblue Fantasy Relink, and about to start the new Yakuza and Tekken 8.
I don't need a 6th game right at this moment when I also have to buy a console for it.

They mentioned the 29th of April as the potential cut off date for the console exclusivity, so if it goes to Steam then, I would get it there and wait for a PS5 Pro.

You listing all those games shows FF7 Rebirth is getting overshadowed, and that shows the franchise is declining in popularity in Japan (has been for over a decade but this is it's lowest). Back then game companies had to watch out for FF because of how huge it was. FF used to sell on par with Dragon Quest, now it's selling closer to what a Persona or Like a Dragon game does. That's why I said install base doesn't matter at this point in time since we're 3+ years into the PS5 life. If FF was still a juggernaut PS5's would be flying off the shelves these past few weeks in anticipation, but that isn't the case. FF just isn't that big in Japan anymore. Doesn't help FF7 Remake was very decisive, so they're not going to get all those people who bought FF7 Remake to buy this game.

I mentioned that I would have picked up Rebirth if I had a PS5. So me listing those games indicates that I'm willing to get the games I'm interested in at launch, if I can play them. Not that they're overshadowing one I can't play. If it worked on PS4 I would have had it as well.
No one was arguing that FF is the juggernaut it used to be in Japan. It's not. But we're comparing the circumstances surrounding Rebirth's launch to Remake.
The "3+ years" you're citing are not even the equivalent of 3 years of PS4's lifespan, because you essentially couldn't get a PS5 for years. And PS4 had been on the Jp market for 6+ years when Remake launched. The economy is in the dumps, while games also cost $70 now instead of $60.

If the launch circumstances were similar, I wouldn't expect anything like a 63% dropoff in sales.

Last edited by Hiku - on 11 March 2024