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EricHiggin said:

Wii U would kinda be its own thing.

It's a hybrid.

A hybrid doesn't mean all Hybrids are the same.

A hybrid is a device that takes upon different aspects (Mobile and fixed home console) and combines them into one device... And often will have compromises or overriding dominant features.

The Sega Nomad from 1995 for example shares many similarities with the Nintendo Switch.
The Sega Nomad could play full home console (Genesis) games on the go, but also output to a TV.

It's still different from a Switch or a WiiU, but it was a Hybrid device.

Arguably, the Switch is more of a mobile handheld and the WiiU was more of a fixed home console, the WiiU sacrificed range, the Switch sacrifices power for mobility and battery life.

EricHiggin said:

Depends on how different Switch 2 will be, but so far the rumors sound like it's going to be a very similar full generational upgrade from Switch 1. That says to me that Wii U should be considered its own thing, or just left under home console still for simplicity.

Obviously the WiiU was a market failure, so there was very little financial incentive for Nintendo to release a WiiU 2.0.

The Switch on the other hand is potentially set to be the best selling console of all time... So how do you follow that up? Reinvent the wheel with something different and hope it's a success? Or you take that current concept and refine it which has less risk financially?

EricHiggin said:

This could turn out to be extra useful if the rumors that XB and/or PS are getting more serious about another handheld are true, since it would seem extremely likely that if they seriously pursue handheld, that they'll do what little extra work needs to be done to make it a hybrid since it adds such a huge benefit to the hardware for little extra cost.

Next gen we could end up comparing PS6 to XBSXS2, as well as SW2 vs PS6P vs XBSH (handheld/hybrid). That's if SNY and MS gave us separate hardware numbers, so we'd have to wait and see.

Microsoft is likely positioned a little more optimally to push into the handheld market... They have Gamepass.

But also the Xbox Series S, which has a hardware technology base that can easily be made portable, so that could potentially skip the developer issue entirely that would allow Series S games to run natively.

Nintendo has attempted to have one device, multiple screens, this is probably the best way to grow your market in a market that is static in size.

Sony will be an interesting case, the PSP was an amazing handheld, the Vita just lacked support... And video games are getting more intensive to build and support, so it's unlikely to be viable to support multiple platforms going forwards, Nintendo even struggled to do it.


EricHiggin said:

Next gen we could end up comparing PS6 to XBSXS2, as well as SW2 vs PS6P vs XBSH (handheld/hybrid). That's if SNY and MS gave us separate hardware numbers, so we'd have to wait and see.

I just want Ray Tracing to be pushed in a big way. It's been a long time coming.

Shtinamin_ said:

      How did I do? Good? Bad? 

      NES is 3rd Gen. Switch is 8th gen.

      Remember the Switch may have released in 2017, but it's hardware is from 2015. - XBox One And Playstation 4 dropped in 2013.
      A company can release more than 1 device per console generation... Or may even skip a generation.

      Atari did it with the Atari 5200 which shared the generation with the 2600.

      Playstation 4/Playstation 4 Pro and Xbox One/Xbox One X and Xbox Series S/Series X.

      Probably a few more examples out there, but you get the idea.

      We can't really go by "years" either... The Original Xbox only existed for 4 years, the Gameboy Advance was only around for 3 years before the DS came... Which really hazards back to my technology definition, console graphics technology tends to be a sort of "eb and flow" with the generations, significant leaps in graphics technology tends to coincide with a viable console successor.

      Shtinamin_ said:

      I don't think Wiki is the best place for sources. But there is a lot of reasoning why it should be gen 9. So what are the reasons why it should be gen 8?

      Wikipedia is perfectly fine.

      You can't exactly jump onto wikipedia and start injecting your own views and opinions into articles... That is, unless you have citations.
      Which is this annoying little bit of "evidence" to support your articles in wikipedia.

      Thus, check the citations in an article to ascertain the veracity of claims.




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