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smroadkill15 said:
Bandorr said:

What are your sources for these claims?  Any source I find says Dreamcast did internet first. And Xbox/PS3 Did 1080p with in a few weeks.  PS3 came out a year later but started with it, where as Xbox only got a patch for it a couple weeks before.

I found an article about PS3 cloud saves coming out in March where as I can only find an article about Xbox 360 in June. Both 2011.

They were interesting to research though.

Xbox popularized online gaming and set the foundation consoles use today. I didn't say it was the first to do it. The original Xbox could output 1080i, not 1080p my mistake. You are right about cloud saves. Was Xbox 360 the first console to have a removeable harddrive, popularize indie games on consoles, and popularize entertainment apps? I remember when Netflix came to the Xbox 360 for the first time before it blew up on everything. Indie games blew up with xbox arcade games. Point still stands, MS popularized many features console take advantage of today and didn't copycat everything like Jumpin claims. 

PS2 had 1080i output, I played GT4 in 1080i on a HD ready TV.
PS2 also had DTS sound output, for example in SSX 3.
PS2 started with image processing with Eye Toy, which led to Kinect and paved the way for PSVR.

PS3 is still regarded as one of the best most versatile media players.

Indie games blew up with Steam, but sure XBLA did its part on consoles.

One thing MS did popularize for sure is paying for online features :/
Another thing that luckily hasn't caught on yet is the amount of ads on the dashboard, now even on startup.

It all doesn't matter though. MS should focus on delivering games first instead of monetization of everything to stay competitive.