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RolStoppable said:
SecondWar said:

Another thing I see someone say on one if the other forums I frequent is ‘play the ball, not the man’. The person who says it seems to be pro-Russia and comes out with this line when he gets abuse from Ukraine’s supporters.

Whilst I obviously don’t agree his pro-Russia views, I think this line in apt. It is far better to address his points and say why they are flawed and misguided than to make passive aggressive remarks.

The same is true of your comment to McFirefly.

Things have improved since then and now she understands that continued weapon deliveries to Ukraine do not escalate the conflict but rather do the opposite, with the Black Sea grain ships being the most obvious example. It used to be that Russia used hunger as a means of pressure, now there's no grain deal anymore, yet we hear nothing about a world hunger problem anymore. This didn't happen because of a diplomatic solution, but through a plain demonstration of force, the only language that Russia accepts.

Verrrry good point.

Ukraine tried diplomacy with the grain corridor, Erdogan is desperately trying to look like a peacekeeper between the two, Ukraine had a grain deal, Russia broke it multiple times, only through a show a force has Ukraine managed to restore their grain corridor to almost pre-war levels. Diplomacy didn't cause that, Storm Shadow/SCALP, Sea Drones, etc, caused that.