Biden vs Trump 2024 Political Platforms, Policies and Issues

[Robert_Downey_Jr.]

Biggerboat1 said:

Robert_Downey_Jr. said:

Never shifted a goal post.  Biden evacuated terribly and actually suffered an invasion under his watch.  His track record on the middle east and Ukraine is definitely worse than Trump.  You were the one who started talking buildup so then I addressed that.  Not sorry for not talking about that in saying that the invasion happened under Biden.  If merely addressing your points is now shifting goal posts you're just trying to spin things.

Trump wanted NATO nations to start paying their fair share.  That's it.  If they can't do that it's not an alliance, it's a charity.

Overall you have to give Biden net credit for pulling out of Afghanistan though right? The resources and American lives saved over the long term will dwarf the lost equipment and casualties suffered from the pull-out. Your hyperfocus on the negative, and much less important part of that story kinda makes you seem bad faith... 

Also, you do know that not everything that happens on the planet revolves around who's in the Whitehouse? 

Can you explain what Trump would have done differently in the wake of Russia invading Ukraine & Hamas' terrorist attack that would have put either of those parties off pursuing their aggressions?

Also, you seem to have conveniently dodged answering the covid question. Trump was in office, so by your logic it was his L right? We all know that China deliberately released it as biological weapon, so perpetrated an act of war on Trump's watch, right? 

Nah I don't think he can control governors who shut down without getting absolutely made into the badguy by the press and think he was done in the election as soon as it happened since the economy was gonna take a hit.  And no I don't give Biden credit for pulling out of Afghanistan either one was gonna do that in a similar timeframe.  The lack of organization made it a failed pullout when it should have been organized and not destroyed everything that was built while leaving weapons around in a disorganized mess.  If Trump is in office maybe he sees the chaos and makes them slow down and do it right.  i have no idea what Trump would do lol he wasn't there and it didn't seem to be happening under 4 whole years of him (here comes the "Then neither was the Afghanistan pullout" reasoning when his plans were already laid for that.)