sundin13 said:
I personally am of the mind that slow movement in the right direction is preferable to quick movement in the wrong direction. Do I wish more could be done? Of course, but I'm not going to trade that slow progress for the hope that something better will come out of the rubble. Like, I'm personally in a pretty good position. None of the worst consequences of a MAGA government will hit me. So, I feel it would be morally reprehensible for me to trade someone else's life or well-being for the empty, self-congratulatory hope that doing nothing will bring radical change. Like, if you want radical change, you gotta vote for radical change. In 2020, people did not vote for radical change. They voted for a generic, moderate old-guy and gave him a 50/50 senate, so your Democratic governance all had to run through the most right leaning Democrat in government. Given that, I think most reasonable people saw Biden's Administration coming out further to the left than they expected. i) Biden's control over oil drilling is fairly minimum, but even still, I personally feel like it doesn't make much sense to bring the green revolution by destroying oil. The decline of oil should be a consequence of green energy investment. That investment takes time, but Biden has passed an incredibly significant bill supporting that investment. There is also a question of whether reducing American oil supplies even really does anything. OPEC controls prices by controlling oil availability. If US oil declines, they increase production to make up for it. Unless there is a significant change in demand (which can only come through investment in green energy), fighting against american oil doesn't really get you far. ii) So, what would you have had Biden do in Afghanistan? Give money to the Taliban? Stay in the war? He was left with no good options, but he chose the one which ended the damn war. Isn't that what you were asking for? iii) Good of you to admit it. iv) Taxation: It is absolutely nonsense to assert that there is no difference in the tax structure of a democratic government and a MAGA government. Pretty much as a rule, MAGA aims to cut taxes on businesses and the rich and pay for it by cutting welfare. Democratic government aims for the exact opposite. What is able to be passed is limited given the structure of Congress and whether people are actually voting, but even in that environment, Biden was able to pass a temporary expansion of the Child Tax Credit which was extremely impactful at reducing child poverty and talks are in the works to extend a version of that very same credit, even without full control of congress. Further, if you think a modern Dem government would have passed Trump's tax cuts for the rich, you are out of your damn mind. v) The attacks on LGBTQ rights have been coming pretty much exclusively from the MAGA right. Of course, there is a difference between Democrat policy and MAGA policy. Control over the issue at a local level is significant, but no matter, voting is incredibly important. vI) Women's rights: I listed several things that Biden did in regards to this in my last post and you admitted that you were talking out your ass, bud. vii) Democracy: Who voted for Trump and Biden to represent the parties? The people. You can't say "We don't live in a democracy" only to point to the representatives that were voted for by the people... At the end of the day, I vote for the person who best represents my views in the primary, then I do the same in the general, because that is what I can do. Sitting back and saying "Nah, I'm gonna sit this on out" on the hope that somehow things will get better through inaction is insanity. We can debate whether Biden is good all day, but I want to hear you justify how you think doing nothing will make things better... |
Finishing thoughts: "Sitting back and saying 'Nah, I'm gonna sit this on out' on the hope that somehow things will get better through inaction is insanity." You could listen to yourself. ;) I'm not going to waste my time so that inaction happens: Biden and Trump are one-in-the-same. But unfortunately, you've already gotten lost in the cultural aspect of identifying as a democrat. Sad. Hopefully you'll overcome your cognitive dissonance some day and realize that me not wanting to support a party that bastardizes a cause which I'm passionate about isn't simply just a matter of "oh you must don't care!!" because it should be clear that in fact I do care. I've just had enough. They have lost my vote.
