Russia and Ukraine flashpoint

[SecondWar]

Biggerboat1 said:

SecondWar said:

A decent enough number of Republicans do seem to be in favour of backing Ukraine. Others who aren’t tend to fall into two categories- budgetary hawks who resist major financial outlays (be it Ukraine or something else) or those who seem to be anti-Ukraine/pro-Russia. The latter group are typically Trumpist Republicans. Remember Ukraine and Zelensky are linked to Trump’s first impeachment and Trump is the type to hold a grudge.

Hmm I didn't think of the Trump aspect - he really does just fuck up everything.

It's just so strange to see Republicans being against any US military involvement full stop, and it of course has to be the one where there's a clear moral imperative to help...  And the idea that there's some in the party that are pro-Russian is bewildering - completely at odds with their historic stance. American politics is in equal measure baffling/terrifying/depressing...

Since the advent of Trump, Republicans (some if them) have taken more if an isolationist stance in international affairs. This is usually what Trumpist say when refusing Ukraine's appeal for aide. They'll say Europe's problems aren't America's problems. Trump also is a big Nato skeptic and a second Trump term could well see him withdraw the US from Nato.

But its also hard to listen to Trump and his backers like MTG and not conclude that they're pro-Ruusia.