Best console from 2023

[Shtinamin_]

Veknoid_Outcast said:

smroadkill15 said:

I feel like a lot of people are voting for what their preferred system is versus what was actually best, objectively speaking. I don't even own a Switch, but I still voted for it. Ps5 was really not any better than Xbox when it came to software, and an argument can be made that Xbox had the better lineup of games, especially if you toss in 3rd party exclusives and the 50 day 1 releases on Game Pass through the year. The voting is basically a popularity contest, but whatever.

Shtinamin_ said:

calm down. why are you putting words in smroadkill15's mouth. that isnt what was said.

This thread is to vote for the best console of 2023.
This is NOT a popularity contest and if you thought it was you are wrong.
People have preferences, and I want to understand why, but when the facts arrive, there is no denying. That doesnt mean a company is garbage, no it just means they had a slump year in their video game career.

If you want it to be about 1st Party games, then you think it is. But we are trying to look at the year as a whole, 1st Party, 3rd Party, exclusives, numbers, better designed console iteration, most active users, most awards, better trailers, etc... Hopefully you get the picture. I dont know why you are so confused about this thread, the title says it all. What was the best? And why?

Videogames preference is subjective and that is why there are the Game Awards, the Japan Game Awards, DICE awards, Game Developers Choice awards, british academy games awards, and why VGChartz is publishing "Best ______ game" articles. Preferences have subjectivity but to determine the best game requires objectivity, the same logic applies to the best console of 2023.

And that's totally fine that Nintendo games aren't your "cup of tea". I personally dont like FPS, most cause I'm bad at them and get wrecked like a noob lol. But I see that there were some highly accredited FPS games, Counter-Strike 2 on Steam Deck, Quake II on all major systems, etc. And I also heard that COD had trouble and wasn't the best of the series.

Ok, so you choose PS5, why? Is the only reason because of the 3rd party games, and the 7 Sony published games. Or were you also viewing that they released the most consoles this year, PS5 Slim, PS5 Slim Digital. or were you looking at the most subscription users. or something else I missed.

I would recommend against trying to chase objectivity. It's simply impossible. You can present objective facts when talking about video game, e.g., units sold, Metacritic scores, subscribers. But you can't say a game or system or developer or even a year is objectively great. You just can't. It all boils down to subjective feelings about what constitutes greatness. Even if you try to apply objective measurements to greatness, you're making a subjective decision by assigning weight to a certain measurement.

why cant you say something is objectively great? What criteria are you comparing it to? Is there bias?

In order to evaluating something purpose & objectivity you should be asking yourself: Is there bias or a slant given to the information provided?

If there is no bias then it is objective. Once bias is involved you are using feelings, hence why I was talking about facts have priority over feelings.

If we are still trying to reach an objection, then we need to determine what we are being objective on.
What measurement are we comparing then to determine what was the best console of 2023?

I personally looking at certain categories (for simplicity because we can literally go forever discussing categories), and whoever did better gets a point, and whoever had the most points wins.
I looked at:

• units sold in 2023, and total units
• # of games with 90+ metacritic score
• # 1st party games published
• # of award wins
• total users, and subscribers
• # total games (I dont know how to look at # games added per console in 2023 without going super deep, but if we need to we can)

These were the simple categories that I can view without a bias, and determine for myself who had the better year. If there are more categories you want to go over lets go over them together. :)