160rmf said:
Bolded: No denies on that, but I think Nuts and Bolts is more its own thing, other than having Banjo and Kazooie, i think it's hard to be compared with the N64 games. But the first part I don't agree at all. Tooie is definitely better than Kazooie: the worlds, boss battles, minigames, gameplay mechanics, puzzles, etc... I just wish rareplay on Switch is happening to have all these games on the go |
A lot of people deny that Nuts and Bolts was a great game. It was compared to the CDI Zelda games not five posts ago and I think someone is threatening violence against one of its characters XD
I think the level design for Tooie was awful. In Mario 64 or BK, and even to a lesser extent in DK64, the worlds are generally compact and have obvious landmarks to make things easy to navigate. Like, Freezeezy peak which had the christmas tree, giant Snowman, and the polar bear dude's house. It's pretty easy and intuitive to navigate, especially because you don't tend to have to go back and forth too much for each jiggy.
In Tooie on the other hand, the worlds are much larger, and often without any good landmarks to navigate. The mine level is particularly awful in this regard. This problem is exaccerbated by how much backtracking the game makes you do, sometimes even making you go through multiple levels to get some jiggies. And, you also had to switch between essentially five characters (Banjo-Kazooie, solo Banjo, solo Kazooie, transformation, Mumbo), which means even more backtracking.
It's kind of in an awkward place where it sometimes feels closer to a Zelda game than a Mario game. Maybe some people are into that, but it's just not what I was looking for in a Banjo game. It's not a bad game, but I just can't really find a good reason to play it instead of playing Banjo-Kazooie. There are some things it does better (especially boss battles), but it's not worth putting up with the things it does worse. It's kind of like, in almost every platform game there are a few levels that make you go "Ugh I hate this one". Like Rusty Bucket Bay and to a lesser extent Click Clock Wood in BK1. But in Banjo Tooie more than half the levels give me that ugh feeling. Witchy World is cool though.
Basically, almost every platformer tends to have a world or something where you're just like "ugh I hat this one". For Banjo-Tooie,
