smroadkill15 said:
What's wrong with having high expectations for Xbox's biggest 1st party releases this gen? Should nobody have expectations for ES, Fable, and Blade now? Lol Halo and Forza Horizon are system sellers and caused a jump in GP subs so they pretty much lived up to expectations. Starfield was one of the most hyped new games of this gen so of course there were expectations. I've never seen so much port begging and butt hurt from a certain group in probably my entire time of gaming lol. Just because Bethesda didn't knock it out of the park, doesn't mean expectations were wrong. Same goes for people expecting XBox hardware to increase in 2023, or at least break even. 2023 was easily a better year in software for Xbox compared to 2022. The fact it sold as poorly as it did is surprising. When looking back at it, Xbox was not nearly aggressive enough with sales, deals, and bundles this year. The fact Xbox didn't even release a console bundle for Forza or Starfield is a head scratching decision. The increased hardware prices really didn't help either. I never said the Cod deal was the cause of ps3 struggles lol. I said, those Cod deals helped Xbox sales and they did. Xbox was the go-to platform for the majority of CoD players during the 7th gen. To say, Xbox getting CoD marketing going forward won't have any positive effect on Xbox hardware is straight denial. I know I said I wouldn't post in this thread again, but I had to correct the inaccuracy of your reply lol. |
Say what you want but Halo and Starfield underdelivered. Forza did great (given its perceived popularity) but wasn't that big of a system seller. Much of what you write here is irrevelant (the topic is hardware sales) and exaggerated (for instance, Halo and FH5 didn't do much for GamePass either. IIRC GamePass growth was starting to slow down not long before they released. They couldn't stop this).
You overestimated these games yourself in a discussion with me. You claimed that Xbox will have two big system sellers coming before Sony releases their first (completely ignoring Miles Morales!), thinking it'll help Xbox gain marketshare.
Yes, there is nothing wrong with having high expectations. Just as there is nothing wrong with explaining why some of these expectations were too-positive/unrealistic. But I'm more annoyed by rude and arrogant posts that attack/mock people with literally more reasonable expectations just because they're less positive towards Xbox. You here are misrepresenting my arguments... I didn't say "CoD won't have any positive effect on Xbox hardware" , I meant the marketing/GP CoD impact will be negligible or shortlived. For example, Xbox Series XS's Q4 is looking to decline YoY (over an already terrible 2022 Q4) despite Starfield. That doesn't mean that Starfield had zero impact... it just means that the impact was small enough to call insignificant. It couldn't even offset the decline over an embarrassing Q4 2022 for crying out loud.
"CoD marketing" may be an even smaller factor this late in the generation. I'm pretty sure Xbox One launched with CoD marketing and yet the PS4 crushed it. X360 keeping up with PS3 had little to do with X360 CoD marketing. PS3 was more harmed by CoD simply existing on Xbox, which was easily the superior console in a number of key areas.
Last edited by Kyuu - on 06 January 2024
