| Torillian said: @Onimusha I'd like to think I both disagree and dislike your opinions. I disagree with them at face value, and dislike them based on how you came upon them. My argument is not just that these points have been addressed, but that you have nothing to bring to the thread that has not been stated by someone else, because that is where you are getting your opinions from. I will argue all day with someone who's played the game and didn't like it, and in the end I accept that neither of our opinions will change because no game is for everyone. Personally SSBB just didn't click for me, but I can still appreciate people that really loved it. What I can't forgive is someone attacking a game simply because of what they read about it. |
I've played MGS through MGS3, I've read enough opinions, reviews and insights on the game from both sides of the fence. It does not take a genius, it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out what is going on with this game or figure out what the hell is going on. The very fact your only attack on my opinions is the blanket default I've not played it myself yet cannot defend the game itself on a single one of its own merits seriously begs the question of your opinions validity more than my own. Unless you're hoping I too would be blinded by the over all presentation of MGS4 and lose my nerve to call it anything but a pretty game, I don't see what your point is as everything I've sided with is more than reflective of the game's mediocre performance and Kojima's notorious history of MGS game making.
I guess only the people with the small fortune to afford a PS3 and this game can be allotted the right to make an educated deduction of the game's achievements and that in itself ensures a majority sum of individuals who are already fans of the series, want to love the game and are dedicated to the series. This is not a PS2 game, it's a PS3 game.
| Torillian said: Out of curiosity, what review score do you think the game deserves? |
Interestingly enough, were you aware that most if not all publishers have legally binding contracts with Game Magazines and Game Sites that in order for that source to be able to release an early review of a game, it has to be within a specified range. Typically this range is 8-10 but can be as picky as 9-10. If a reviewer does not uphold this, they at the very least are shunned (denied future access to pre-launch games and information) and at the very most face legal action as is now the case with Atari and Alone in the Dark taking issue with several reviewers.
LAIR was a similar situation, however the convenient excuse, Sony's "Guide" for how to review the game (what range of scores they were allowed to give it) had not arrived yet, spared most from repremand.These contracts can vary from reviewer to reviewer and game to game depending on the size of the project and its priority in the Company. The Game Industry basically has the reviewing system at its mercy when it comes to its bigger games and publishers like EA, Microsoft and Sony have alot of muscle to flex.
Imagine if you will the head Editor leaning over your cubical and telling you, "Play just enough of MGS4 to have something to say about it, but the games score will be a 10." Major Game Magazines and Sites cannot afford not to play ball, how many hits do you think Game websites got and how many magazines do you think were sold just for people to see the earliest review of MGS4? This wasn't the game of the year, but the game of the last four years. This game was the major push for all the magazines and game sites it was already in their favor to make it look good or risk a loss of face to the consumer. To question this game would have been to question the industry and its standards.
Funny thing about Penny-Arcade, like their reviewes or not, they are an invaluable source for insider information on the goings on behind the scenes in the industry. They are the best source for the drama, the politics and the underhanded dealings of the gaming world. It's really a crime more people don't read their news posts, they'd learn so much of what really goes on behind the scenes of game reviews.
What score would I personally give the game? From everything I've heard and Seen, I'd think a 7 at its lowest and an 8 at its highest would be the most appropriate.
