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numberwang said:

JEMC said:

A couple of things:

1) You're not taking into account any IPC improvements that each new architecture brings to the table. That should be enough to put your "downclocka CPU enough to make it win the efficiency crown" statement. No it wont because it will use less power, but the other CPUs will still be able to do more at the same power thanks to the improvements they have.

2) This is not about downclocking or limiting CPUs until they look good. GamersNexus tested those processors out of the box, at its regular power and frequency settings, and AMD was more efficient out of the box. Then, they limited both CPUs to the same power to see how they would behave with both of them using the same amount of power, to see if Intel appears to be less efficient because they push those chips the most, and the result was still the same.

Simply put, AMD has a more efficient architecture than Intel.

If a 12100F is wining a chart about efficiency (compared to all other non X3D CPUs), that chart is poorly constructed (intentionally?). GamersNexus are turning towards the same snarky clickbait with skewed tests. Main issue here is that you have to equalize free parameters, i.e. set the same wattage across all tested CPUs. AMD does indeed lead in gaming efficiency with X3D chips, however Intel is leading in single thread performance and the high number of E-cores are very efficient in non-gaming applications. More meaningful watt-per-watt comparisons put AMD and Intel in the same efficiency class, depending on specific apps. Intel's unlocked CPUs are a double-edged sword, unlocking was once considered an expensive enthusiast feature and now you get it "for free" but the efficiency curve does drop drastically above 120W. GamersNexus know that trade-off but they constructed some bad charts to get internet points.

I'd stop you right there, because if you think GamersNexus did that on purpose, then they're not the only ones, like TechPowerUp:

From their 14900K review, the page about power consumption and efficiency: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i9-14900k/22.html

Bottom of the page you'll find the efficiency graphs... and the 14900K and 14700K don't do well.

But it gets worse, because they did an article testing the 14900K with different power limits: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i9-14900k-raptor-lake-tested-at-power-limits-down-to-35-w/

I'd suggest that you skip the power consumption & efficiency page, especially the single thread efficiency chart. You won't like who's number one.

Rhonin the wizard said:

JEMC said:

• And for the 12th and last day, Fanatical has launched a Wishlist & Win contest... but they've forgotten to add the link. Keep an eye here until they post it: https://www.fanatical.com/en/blog/12-days-of-big-festive-deals-blogs

For this contest all you have to do is have 5 games on your wishlist on Fanatical. If you already had 5 games you are automatically entered.

Ah! Got it. Well, that explains the lack of any link.

Thanks.

Last edited by JEMC - on 22 December 2023