PS2 shipments over 158.6m, breaking down missing fiscal data.

[Phenomajp13]

Zippy6 said:

Mandalore76 said:

PlayStation2:             157.68m
PlayStation:               102.50m
PlayStation3:               87.41m
PlayStation4:               81.06m
PlayStationPortable:     81.09m
PlayStationVita:          16.03m

VGChartz totals:     = 525.77m

8/9/2018 Announcement:  525.3m

As you can see, the adjustments that were made to VGChartz' estimates for Sony's legacy hardware brings this site very closely back in line with what Sony themselves announced as total sales by the PlayStation family as of August 9, 2018.  So, if you are suggesting that PS2 may have sold 161m consoles, that's nearly 4 million more consoles that need to be subtracted from somewhere else in the PlayStation family that hasn't been adjusted already since Sony's 2018 announcement.  Which of Sony's consoles do you think are still listed as overtracked here?

The 525.3m figure is sell-through as of July 2nd 2018 at the same time they announced 81.2m sell-through for PS4. As PS1/PS3 are dead we can treat shipped as sell-through and just subtract there totals.

So subtract PS4 and we get 444.1m for PS1+PS2+PS3+PSP+Vita.

PS1 was 102.4m lifetime, subtract that: 341.7m for PS2+PS3+PSP+Vita

PS3 sold 87.4m lifetime (or very slightly over) subtract that: 254.3m for PS2+PSP+Vita

Now this is the 3 consoles we don't have close to lifetime figures left but subtract VGC figures for PSP/Vita for July 7th 2018 and...

254.3m minus 81.09m for PSP = 173.21m
173.21m minus 15.79m for Vita = 157.42m

157.42m for PS2 is too low. We know that PS2 numbers must have been over 158.51m from my calculations in the OP, the alternative method counting back from PS3 figures shown in this post: PS2 shipments over 158.6m, breaking down missing fiscal data. (vgchartz.com) prove the PS2 sales must be at a minimum over 158.29m and likely quite a bit higher unless PS3 went from 3.1m in FY14 to nothing in FY15.

So it's clear that the lifetime figures for PS2 on here are too low, and that the figures for PSP+Vita as of July 2nd 2018 are too high.

PSP at end of FY11 (March 31st 2012) = 76.4m
FY12 = 7m for PSP & Vita combined
FY13 = 4.1m for PSP & Vita Combined
FY14 =  3.3m for PSP & Vita Combined
FY15 = ??? for Vita (PSP discontinued)

if PSP sold 81.09m lifetime than Vita had shipped 9.71m by March 31st 2015, but VGC has Vita figures at 11.04m for March 28th 2015.

So I think the majority of PS2's missing sales are coming from the Vita being overtracked. VGC numbers for PSP/VITA are not in-line with Sony's portable shipment numbers.

So Vita and/or PSP are overtracked, PS2 is undertracked.

"254.3m minus 81.09m for PSP = 173.21m
173.21m minus 15.79m for Vita = 157.42m"

This needs updating, we have a 82.5 million figure for PSP. 254.3 minus 82.5 for PSP = 171.8

171.8 minus 15.79 for Vita = 156.01 for PS2

So now we are going to see people all of a sudden tear Vita down to make PS2 as high as possible.

If Vita sold the same as WiiU (13.5 million?) then that puts PS2 at 158.3 million. If PS2 reached 160 million, Vita sold less than 12 million.

Last edited by Phenomajp13 - on 19 December 2023