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Pemalite said:
Shtinamin_ said:

Hmmm, sorry to butt in but this looks like an interesting conversation.
So Permalite you say the Switch, phones, tablets, and laptops aren't hybrid devices. And zorg1000 says that the Switch is a hybrid? 
Permalite, I think that your definition of a hybrid isn't clear concise and direct. This is how I would describe a hybrid device: "Hybrid technology systems combine two or more technologies with the aim to achieve efficient systems."
Can we all agree that this is a solid definition to use for hybrid devices?

Now we can ask if the Nintendo switch combine two or more technologies to become a more efficient device?
-Switch is a tablet that has a form of bluetooth to connect with controllers, plays games, and connects to an external device to bring it to a bigger screen (usually a TV).
-Switch allows gaming at home, and gaming-on-the-go.
Given this, we can make the deduction that, yes Nintendo Switch is a Hybrid for it has multiple ways to use it, handheld tv tabletop, and uses multiple technologies to allow gaming to be efficient.

Does the switch have a physical change when their usage changes? No, at least to me and the definition I provided, that isn't what makes a hybrid and hybrid.

May I ask what your definition of a hybrid device is?

It's a portable/handheld first and foremost.
It has a display, battery, wifi in a convenient portable form factor.

It just has "features" that allows it to do a few extra tricks/gimmicks. - Doesn't make it a Hybrid.

Is the Steamdeck a Hybrid?
Is the Aya Neo a Hybrid?
Is the ROG ally a Hybrid?
Is the PSP a Hybrid?
Is the Sega Nomad a Hybrid?
Is the iPhone 15 a Hybrid?
Is the Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra Hybrid?
Is the iPad a Hybrid?
Is the Samsung Galaxy Tab a Hybrid?

I could go on. - They could all "Output" to an external display just like the Switch, most even have docks, some could also do it wirelessly.

So what feature specifically do -you- think makes the Switch a Hybrid?
Because it's certainly not the capability to output to a display or dock.

I will be sticking with the definition of a hybrid system.

"Hybrid technology systems combine two or more technologies with the aim to achieve efficient systems."


Alright. Now what technology is in the Switch console, im using basic common words, for I dont want to dive into specific specs (its too late).
Switch:
-A Screen
-Touch Screen Technology
-Detachable Controlers
-Inside shoulder buttons
-Trigger shoulder buttons
-D-Pad
-Cartridges
-A Dock
-Charging Dock USB-C
-Rumble
-Wireless Controller Connection
-Wi-Fi multiplayer gaming (even if it is a rather garbage connection
-Rechargeable Battery
-SD card


Now lets take a look at one of your examples: the iPhone 15 (I personally am disappointed in Apple for being lackluster in technology, they used to be the top innovators)
iPhone 15:
-A Screen
-Touch Screen Technology
-Camera
-Instantaneous Text Voice Communication
-Cell Phone
-Wi-Fi Multiplayer gaming
-Rechargeable Battery
-FaceTime
-Video Recording
-USB-C Charger.

So yes iPhone 15, and Nintendo Switch are hybrids. I can go on and on. I'll make one more comparison. 
Casio F91W-1 Wrist Watch:
-Tells Time
-Tells the Day
-Wearable
-Adjustable Wrist Strap
-Belt Buckle
-Set Alarms
-Timer
(each of those require, gears, springs, motherboard circuitry, plastics, and metal)

So yes, even a watch is a hybrid.

super_etecoon said:

I can't believe that this is what this thread has turned into. Take this hybrid vs non-hybrid debate to its own thread. It has literally nothing to do with the thread title. I know we're hard up for conversation here and topics, but can't we keep some of the decency of forum etiquette?

Also please I fully agree. I am sorry Super_Etecoon for our childish behavior.
May I ask what would Nintendo need to accomplish in order to sell their next console faster, quicker, expand their reach to even more people, and sell for a longer life cycle? I do appreciate you bringing us back to the thread. :)

Last edited by Shtinamin_ - on 04 December 2023

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PS5: 130 million (was 124 million)

Xbox Series X/S: 54 million (was 60 million, then 57 million)

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