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TheMisterManGuy said:
Wman1996 said:

Ironically enough, Wii probably has a lot more worthwhile games in its library for core gamers than Wii U.
Switch is pretty much the perfect combo for all types of players.

Even more ironic is that the Switch has all the same problems as the Wii from a "core gamer" perspective.

* It's still woefully underpowered compared to PlayStation and Xbox.

* It still doesn't have great online.

* It still has a bunch of gimmicks

* It still focuses more on family fun time with multiplayer and motion controls vs. a "hardcore" gamer experience

* It still regularly misses most of the biggest AAA third party games. And if they do come, they're often late watered down "impossible ports" or cloud versions.

Yet in spite of all that, I think the Switch is seen as less of a joke to "core gamers" compared to the Wii purely because it's also a handheld. That makes it less easy to compare to and scoff at since Nintendo was always better at being a portable platform holder vs. a console one. As such, the third party support and graphics are a lot more impressive for the Switch as a mobile system. Because as strictly a home console, it's kinda lame compared to the PS5 or Xbox Series. (And I say this as someone who loves the Switch.)

huh??

1. It's not woefully underpowered. It's a handheld. You can't compare the power of handhelds and consoles.

2. Sure it doesn't have great online I'll give you that.

3. No sure what gimmicks it has. Being able to play anywhere isn't a gimmick, just the coolest way to make a system.

4. Have you played the Switch? Motion controls are barely used, and definitely not a focus of the system. And since when did gamers not enjoy "fun time with multiplayer"?? lol. "Hardcore gamer" is not just deathmatch shooters. Many many many first party and third party games on Switch are "hardcore gamer" games.

5. Yes it misses most of the big AAA third party games because those companies almost exclusively make those games for the latest high end graphics which is of course going to be for consoles and not a handheld system.

And you think Switch is seen as less of a joke to "core gamers"....uhhh, who in the world would ever think of Switch as a joke?! lol. It took the gaming world by storm and has many of the best games of the past 7 years exclusive to it.

Wii's problem was the 100% focus on motion controls which, while awesome, is only awesome for certain kinds of games, so that being THE primary play mechanic of the system made it more of a casual system than "core gamer" system. Switch has almost no focus on motion control or any gimmick, it's a pretty ideal system for core gamers outside of big third party action games.