Russia and Ukraine flashpoint

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Bofferbrauer2 said:

crissindahouse said:

Sounds like excuses to me. I bet there is something countries like Italy, France and Spain could do. Germany as example is sending their Iris-T systems to Ukraine before they even get them themselves. Brand new equipment. I'm sure the other countries also get some air defense or other equipment which they could send to Ukraine first. 

Stuff like the tanks is obviously another story but yeah, right now nobody can tell me that the other big European countries just can't do more...

But it looks really bad for Ukraine now. Wilders won in Netherlands, German politicians can't get their shit together right now to even free money for anything so that money for Ukraine looks even worse. Then what's happening in USA and so on...

I'm not denying that France certainly could do quite a bit more, I'm just saying it's not quite as bad as the raw numbers would suggest. I can understand why they won't send their brand-new anti-Drone system (out of fear that Russia could capture and reverse-engineer them or develop some countering devices), but they have other equipment that they could send.

So I understand the theory behind this fear but I also think...That's war, if these countries were being attacked, would they hold back stuff in fear of the opponent reverse engineering it? They wouldn't. I know they aren't being attacked but Ukraine is in prime position to wipe an enemy off the map long term and also we get another country into NATO, one in which would have more recent combat experience than every country in NATO, better knowledge than any other country in how to deal with Russia, Europe's main rival.

Or we end up with Ukraine in ruins and a vital military ally gone because we were too afraid of our own technology being reverse engineered, and honestly it's not a fear that I share, Western technology has proven itself to be far superior to Russia's already, Russia can reverse engineer our shit and while they do that, we'll be building brand new shit that is already better than the stuff Russia has reverse engineered, especially after their economy is pummelled and they've suffered a huge brain drain as a result of the war.

Even our 1980s stuff is better than Russia's 2010's stuff, Lol.