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Bofferbrauer2 said:

Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Well it's not like they have to do much. If they bring the prices one tier down, it should be plenty. 4070 Super for the price of the 4070 Ti with the performance similar to a 4080 would be easy wins. It's similar to what they did with 2070 Super during the Turing generation.

I'm pretty sure the 4070 Super will still have less CUDA cores than the 4070Ti since the latter doesn't get a Super update. I expect 6400-7000 Shader cores (200-218 TMUs/Tensor cores), which is still less than the 7680 Shader Cores (240 TMU/Tensor cores). Otherwise the 4070Ti would lose all reason to exist, and I doubt it would be in NVidia's interest to torpedo their own product for a second time after the uncancelling of the 4080 12GB.

The name of the chip doesn't always mean much: The 2060 has a variant that uses the same TU 104 chip than the 2080 and 2080 Super, for instance

Except that 2060 was a limited product line that was exclusive to Evga and their "2060 KO" and not an entire product stack that was given to all AIBs to produce. 2070 Super was close to 2080 performance for $500. It made the 2080 lose all reason to exist hence the purpose of the 2080 Super. Why do you think they are making a 4080 Super as that is generally how refreshes work. 2070 Super also used TU104 which was same die as a 2080.

So I highly doubt a 4070 Super will have less cores while using AD103 die because it's simply wasteful when they could easily use AD104. If anything, Nvidia will position it as 4070 TI's replacement and not replace the 4070.