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rapsuperstar31 said:
coolbeans said:

This whole situation is so confusing.  Factions II seemed like an easy shoe-in.  I can't fathom any of its most dedicated fans asking for more than understandable basics:

-Part II's gameplay foundation (of course)

-A decent variety of launch maps

-Avoid OG Factions' few missteps, like a couple of OP weapons (that were kinda pay-2-win)

-A non-intrusive cosmetic storefront

The more bad news I hear from this, the more I wonder what ND had in mind.  

I think that is what they had going on with it, until Bungie looked at it and told them this wasn't going to be something that kept people coming back to it for years to come.

I'm skeptical. If it were just this it would've been packaged with TLoU2. It had to have grown in scope, which is supported by artwork showing San Francisco iirc. It's hard to say what effect Bungie had on the project. The most likely scenario was a review of ND's content pipeline not being adequate.

Regardless of the truth, I do still think that ND could get away with a simple Factions release (+ horde mode) and call it a day. But, that depends on the state of teh game currently.

Leynos said:

Sony should revisit The Order 1886 universe but this time make it an actual game. A Steampunk Gears of War clone with Werewolves. Single Player campaign about 6 hours then an MP mode. Not GaaS.

Order 1886 was a great game. Had a good time with it, but it definitely wasn't worth the full asking price at launch.