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Chazore said:

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It just all feels lame unless you spend the big bucks. And going AMD just feels like you aren't getting the experience that a modern PC GPU should be giving you when you look at Nvidia's feature sets. And yea, I have been a Ryzen owner since Zen 1 because I got ticked off of what Intel has been doing. I might switch back to Intel if Zen 5 doesn't cut it but I'll stay AMD if Zen 5 is very close.

Oh god yeah, especially when I looked at those PL benchmarks, you were just not getting any of that with AMD. They looked so far behind it's embarrassing, and to ehar that next gen won't be featuring a high end model is just going to make next gen benches look far worse for them.

That being said, without the new high end model, I can definitely see them going full on in for FSR 3.5 and the rest of their kit with their new "bundled" mode (the one that'll turn on all the other features like anti-lag), and hoping the bench gods give them something of a result. They won't be able to claim the 40-50% performance uplift next gen though, not without a high end card to prove it, and no, upscaling shouldn't even remotely count, because we know when you turn that off, your frames go to shit (even without RT we've seen numerous games do this, even the bad ports).

Personally I'm stuck between choosing that 5800X3D or that 7800X3D, but I know with the later I'm paying that little bit more, but hey, the benches also look that bit more favourable for the 7800X3D CPu than the former (which seems to be ageing a bit now). I just wish Intel would go back to normal naming and keep the line simple (low end, medium end, high end, and a few K variants per line, that's it). 

I think the cpu upgrade depends on your gpu really. If the difference between 5800X3D and 7800X3D in price means you can get a higher tier GPU or better components else where, then I'd just save the money. With Zen 5 and Arrow Lake, the next gen will show us whether or not AMD will have another Phenom to Bulldozer situation or if they will remain competitive as Arrow Lake is supposed to be really good. If Zen 5 is really good then it's likely best just to upgrade to that sometime next year instead of buying a cpu this year. But if you are etching to upgrade, a 7800X3D is a really good CPU but it won't be useful unless you also have a really good GPU.

With that being said, if you aren't on AM4 already, it's best to get 7800X3D if you are doing an entirely new build.