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zeldaring said:

sc94597 said:

Yes, it would make sense to move to 6nm from 7nm, as Sony had done with their newer PS5 revision (it saved them money and alleviated their shortage on 8nm.)

See: https://www.pcmag.com/news/new-ps5-model-uses-more-efficient-oberon-plus-6nm-chip

This detracts from the idea that Nintendo would go 8nm to save money. Both Sony and Microsoft went 8nm, and realized they needed to quickly choose a more recent fab because of how poor 8nm's yields were. Sony in 2021, and Microsoft in 2024. 

Nvidia switched from 8nm Samsung (Ampere) to 5/4nm TMSC. They don't make chips from 6nm Samsung.

My point was that 5/4nm seems   expensive since Microsoft stuck with 6nm, and  between nintendo paying high cost for 5/4nm they probably went 8nm to save money. i mean anything could happen but every souce says 8nm but you right you never know till they open the console up unless nintendo actually announces specs which they haven't for years. 

And my point was that 8nm/7nm is a bad process node to go for if you are trying to minimize cost. Exemplified by both Sony and Microsoft switching away from it as fast as possible. 

Microsoft's goal with the refreshes is to reduce the size and power requirements, and therefore cost. Going 6nm makes sense for that purpose. 5nm would be overkill. 

Nintendo doesn't have an option to go 6nm as Nvidia isn't purchasing 6nm wafers. Their options are Samsung 8nm/7nm (what Nvidia purchases for Ampere) or TSMC 5/4nm (what Nvidia purchases for ADA Lovelace.)

Nintendo going with an 8nm Sammy node doesn't make sense from a cost perspective because it was a small disaster cost-wise for the other companies. 

It doesn't make sense from what we know of the spec either, for reasons mentioned multiple times in this thread and elsewhere on the internet.

Last edited by sc94597 - on 22 September 2023