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shikamaru317 said:
Ryuu96 said:

Why not both?

Actually, I'm pretty sure this "Hybrid" is "Hybrid" in the way that Flight Simulator is a "Cloud Game" but can be played offline. I think people are reading "Hybrid" and jumping to a conclusion of "Cloud Only" but I don't see that. It speaks about both the combined power of the client and the cloud. It says it will enable new levels of performance beyond client hardware alone.

I'm reading this as a digital only console but not a Cloud only console, I think the more likely explanation is that we'll still have titles running traditionally off the client hardware but it'll also have built in features (such as Keystone was going to have) which enable it and developers to take further advantage of the Cloud to "enhance" the native experience...Aka like Flight Simulator but more on a hardware level.

I feel like they could still do it if my assumption is correct. Though they also speak about doing Handheld devices. I'm not sure if this is meant to be a Handheld device or they mean separate Handheld devices, they further speak about enabling the controller to play on a multitude of devices, Lol. But anyway if the hardware still works locally then I see no reason why they can't still do a Cloud boost for it as well.

Cloud Only would be a disaster and far too early and if that was the case then I would agree that those plans will be scrapped, xCloud can't take the capacity, the servers are crammed. Very significant events have happened since then as well, such as the regulators being bitches and causing Microsoft to cancel a bunch of Cloud stuff and those deals with Cloud rivals and Ubisoft basically put Microsoft's ambitions on hold for 10-15 years.

I want Microsoft to do ARM now though, after I was told how powerful it is but also adaptable from Console to Handheld.

Assuming that all games can be played only on local hardware and Cloud just boosts their graphics and resolution and framerate, it could work, but if any games require Cloud to run, they are going to alienate alot of people I think. 

Surely that is what it means? Like Flight Sim is a Cloud hybrid game but it doesn't mean it's Cloud only.

I don't see why/what sense it would make to do a Cloud only Gen 10 console unless you was also doing a traditional console alongside it. Therefore my assumption would be that it's not a cloud only console but a console which is boosted by the cloud with features natively built into the hardware. If it was Cloud only, why go for such beefy hardware? Lol. Just do it like GeForce Now works, Lol.

Also, if it was Cloud only...Then literally what is the point in them making Keystone? Which was only cancelled this year, it would have served the exact same purpose. Why would I have swapped my Cloud Only Keystone which plays Xbox games via the Cloud only and using Cloud specs for a Cloud Only Xbox which plays Xbox games via the Cloud only and using Cloud specs, Lol.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 19 September 2023