Russia and Ukraine flashpoint

[EpicRandy]

Pyro as Bill said:

EpicRandy said:

Nato response has not been perfect, but it was on point when it came to giving Ukraine what it needed when it needed it and when it was ready to make use of it.

Opinion dismissed.

Sounds more like you are dismissing realism in a bid to try to make your own unrealistic support scenario as anything believable.

The reality of the situation today is only a direct result of what I said in my statement. Would NATO had failed somewhere, Ukraine would already have fallen. Nato has been preparing them both in training and financing since 2014, absent of this Ukraine would not have been able to save itself in early 2022. 

Ever since the invasion occurred Nato supplies have enabled Ukraine to push Russia away from its capital and gain back territories. Enabled Ukrainians to shoot down 90%+ of air threats on a regular basis. Trained 10s of thousands of troops. Himars and now storm shadows, have decimated Russian bases, generals, ammunition depots, and logistics.

And, most important of all, NATO provided the means for Ukraine to do all this while preserving world stability that has grown so fragile by Russian reckless action. This cannot be understated. Russia has shown carelessness when it comes to setting the context for WWIII to occur. Don't blame NATO for caring, analyzing, and measuring their response extensively.

Last edited by EpicRandy - on 09 September 2023