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I mentioned the -E chipset because you've mentioned several times that you want a future-proofing system, and having the extra gen 5 PCIe slot may come in handy in the future if you upgrade to something like a 6060 in several years. But well, it's a gamble.

Techspot reviewed (kind of) the 5800X3D with Cities: Skylines, but the engine appears to rely on single core performance and the extra cache doesn't do anything. Surely they'll use a new engine for Skylines 2, or at least an upgraded one, but the results may be the same, with the 7700 performing better than the 7800X3D due to its higher clocks. But again, it's a gamble.

And yeah, in today's world, finding a case with no windows is extremely difficult, and you're basically limited to a case with at least one window or a case that looks like a fridge (not that it's a bad thing, tho).
Phanteks has good cases, but they're not cheap or lack USB-C.

I'm essentially betting on PCIe 5.0 not becoming very useful for mid-to-low tier GPUs in at least a few years. It'd be unexpected to essentially deprecate essentially only a few years old hardware, and I don't expect GPUs to suddenly start heavily utilizing the benefits of PCIe 5.0 once PCIe 5.0 GPUs do come out. I haven't exactly beeing staying in the loop very much, so of course I could be wrong, but this seems like a much safer bet than some of the others I have to make.

Yeah, the first C:S doesn't really utilize multiple cores that well. The seconds one is supposed to, but I don't know to what extent. There's this promise, "However, the calculations are more efficient, resulting in higher performance across the board as the pathfinding and simulation among other calculations take advantage of all the available processing power of the multicore CPUs.", but I don't think it's really much to go by, since I don't think it's created to utilize any number of cores, and the recommended specs include only a Ryzen 5 5600X. It's another gamble.

I was actually looking at some fairly affordable Phateks case, but it had only USB 3.0 for the Type-C port. I don't think that's going to be a real issue, but I really don't want to switch cases, since that seems like a gigantic pain.

My biggest fear, and I want to stress out that it's a personal fear and nothing more, is that in a couple of gens, both AMD and Nvidia will have switched to Gen 5 while keeping the same designs as today, and that means limiting their xx60 and x600 cards to x8 Gen lanes. That won't be a problem if both ends are Gen5, but if your motherboard is limited to Gen4, then you'll be limiting the bandwidht of your GPU below that AMD and Nvidia designed the cards for.

And don't get me wrong, I know it won't make much of a difference. We've seen how even a 4090 doesn't lose much when limited to x8 PCIe 4.0 lanes and, given that happened this gen, I'm not sure the xx60/x600 cards will come close to its performance even after two gens.

Regarding the case, it probably costs more than what you're willing to spend, but the be quiet! Silent Base 802 (Techpowerup review here) may tick all your boxes.