Russia and Ukraine flashpoint

[COKTOE]

the-pi-guy said:

COKTOE said:

You think Christians hold a lot of power? What? Where? In the US? What?! Is your TV square shaped? Am I communicating with someone from the 50's via a time portal? OK, that's your interpretation on the current balance of power in the US. I do not agree, but really appreciate your demeanor here. It's what's keeping me from a ban. So, hats off, because my post was pretty aggro.

I can't help but wonder how you've come to this conclusion though. Let's take a trip up north. We'll leave the US for later. Are you aware of how many Christian places of worship, also known as churches, have been razed in the last 2 years in Canada? Are you aware of how the Canadian government has responded to these attacks? Do you know how many arrests were made? We can go through the numbers, and then talk some more about the balance of power as it concerns Christians. But before all that, how is one supposed to interpret this:

I'm going to reply here, but we're getting off topic. This topic is about Russia and Ukraine. If you want to follow up with this conversation, either message me privately or post in a more relevant thread such as the US Politics thread, even though this conversation isn't about US politics, it is still pretty relevant there.

I'm speaking from and about a US American perspective. Christianity is huge here. 

You're framing church razing as if that is contradictory to Christianity being a big deal here; which isn't the case. There are plenty of different types of Christians, and some of them do not like the other. And I would guarantee that you would find that at least some people that burn down churches are in fact Christians from other churches.

It's also extremely simplistic. We also have plenty of attacks on Planned Parenthood, caused by plenty of Christians. You're not factoring in things like that either.

COKTOE said:

But before all that, how is one supposed to interpret this:

"Maybe there would be less degradation of Christian values if Christians actually did half of what they're supposed to believe in."

As:

"I wasn't calling out Christians as being all the bad guys in the room or something."

OK, fine. Not on me though. Bad wording I guess.

I'm not sure how you're relating these two comments. 

These two sentences are barely talking about the same thing. 

Serious question and I mean no offense, are you a native English speaker?

You said: "Maybe there would be less degradation of Christian values if Christians actually did half of what they're supposed to believe in."

Do YOU understand English? It's one sentence.

You say that the sentence in question meant:

""I wasn't calling out Christians as being all the bad guys in the room or something."

You were clearly referring to all Christians when you said "Maybe there would be less degradation of Christian values if Christians actually did half of what they're supposed to believe in."

By any reasonable interpretation of the English language. But you said you that's not what you meant. So I gave you the benefit of the doubt. And waited for you to say what you actually meant. Are you seriously questioning my English here?

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Last edited by Bandorr - on 22 August 2023