Carzy Zarx’s PC Gaming Emporium - Catch Up on All the Latest PC Gaming Related News

[Jizz_Beard_thePirate]

Shinobi-san said:

Wow as someone that has followed the tech youtube scene pretty much since it started this whole saga is pretty sad.

I was watching Linus back in the NCIX days with Esther and crew. It always was about fun and tech. Slowly over the years I've stopped watching Linus or LMG videos especially for reviews since they themselves seemed to focus less on it. I was drawn to the Hardware Unboxed format where a large number of games are shown (which really helps). I am also a subscriber of Gamers Nexus, which is usually my second place to go to for reviews.

I was always under the impression that the Youtube tech community was one of the best and strongest on the platform and I found some of the inter channel banter to be fun and light hearted. I personally found it really sad to see the quick reaction by Steve from Gamers Nexus, and I have actually unsubscribed as a result of this, more often than not I find myself watching a hit piece or a drama based video from GN that I almost always find to be blown out of proportion. Whether its attacks on manufacturers or other youtubers etc. Its not necessarily that he is wrong with his accusations and takes, but it also seems like he gets a satisfaction to these gotcha moments. Nobody else in the community really does the same to him, except small unknown channels i guess.

If you do follow LMG it was pretty clear that they had already self-identified some major flaws in how things were going, hence the new CEO. It will be interesting to see the changes. I think some major mistakes were made by LMG with Billet and I also think all Youtube reviewers need to focus more on presenting data and letting consumers decide on what to do with it, rather than having an angle or bias (which seems to be the norm these days). This applies to most Youtube channels including GN.

With regards to the Madison thing - its kinda crazy that everyone is taking everything she said as fact. There were some serious allegations thrown in there, so its really good that they got an independent to investigate.

The thing is that I think Linus and his team needed a wake up call and a change in their attitude towards how reviews are handled. Many of us watch LTT including me from time to time. Their shows are entertaining and reviews are much easier to swallow than GamersNexus and Hardware Unboxed. With GN, I mainly just watch the into/conclusion and skimp through the graphics. With HUB, I mainly do the same just go directly to the average. With Linus, I can watch the entire review without falling asleep unlike the other two.

But their attitude towards having mistakes in their videos has always been uncaring. Sure they have a new CEO and they claim they will improve but with virtually every review video, they contentiously made mistakes. But that in itself isn't the worst thing, the worst thing is how Linus himself openly admitted to not wanting to redo testing even if the data was wrong because it would cost them money. That is an unacceptable attitude and it clearly shows the culture being LMG and it essentially all culminated into the Billet Labs video where Linus was perfectly okay with testing a water block that was not designed for the GPU and coming to the conclusion that it was bad even though he tested on a GPU the waterblock was not made for. Billet Labs even sent Linus the proper GPU with the proper waterblock but guess what? They lost it...

So imo, the reason why this blew up so much is because Linus and his team needed an intervention. Many people posted in the comments through a ton of their videos over various years about issues that were not getting better. Many people during the WAN show told Linus directly that they should retest Billet Labs video because it was tested improperly. And what did Linus do? Double down on making excuses as to why even though he had bad data, he wasn't going to retest it. This is why I am glad GN made the video because Linus was not getting the message regardless of how many times the community told him.

And yes, they got a new Ceo... But he's from Dell... One of the worst companies on the planet... So I am not going have confidence until I see actual proof but I do agree about the Madison thing.

Last edited by Jizz_Beard_thePirate - on 17 August 2023