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konnichiwa said:

Comparing RPG's and RPG studios always has been a thing, Bethesda VS Obsidian VS Bioware VS Larian VS Blizzard VS Piranha bytes VS ....

Heck in 2002 discussions between MW and Divinity were not rare

http://www.ironworksforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65319

And yes at the end of the year we get Best RPG of the year awards and like 99% of the gamers will include Starfield/BGIII and FFXVI in the same RPG category.

If Starfield wins it will be posted here as a big W for Xbox but now it seems it is going to be difficult to do so we get the excuses of 'They are not similar'

If the only counter argument you can make is 'but Starfield will likely make more money' I am not the one being blind and invested in a company=p

This particular discussion of Starfield vs Baldur's Gate 3 is very much wrapped up in console wars, nobody was even comparing the two until Sony got temporary exclusivity. History plays a part as well and you in particular have a long history of being wrapped up in the console wars, dooming Xbox if it goes a single day without megaton news or the opposition (Sony) receives some positive news. You're very clearly someone who is wrapped up in the console wars and that is why you're often called out.

If Starfield won Best RPG, it'd be a nice win but ultimately irrelevant to how well it does, "Best RPG" is even less relevant to the mass market than GOTY is and even at isn't very relevant to the mass market, only enthusiasts care about these awards and even at that, most enthusiasts only care about the GOTY award which most already accepted TOTK was winning.

It'd be a nice win for the developers and maybe some Xbox fans can brag about it, nothing more. You do realise that Starfield will have already sold millions before TGA's anyway? Word of mouth will do 1000x more than any possible "GOTY" could do for Starfield, nobody is going to give a shit if they're busy enjoying and playing the actual game.

People often do point out that there's no RPG like a Bethesda RPG and why comparisons fall flat, Obsidian doesn't make RPGs like Bethesda does and vice versa. People compare them at a superficial level but ultimately when you get into roots they're completely different types of RPGs which can appeal to a large portion of gamers on their own.

You complain that our counter argument is that Starfield will make more money and yet here is what you said "Seems Bethesda gets owned in every way possible" So you can make a claim that Bethesda gets "owned in every way possible" but we aren't allowed to make a claim that, actually, they don't get "owned in every way possible" makes sense, Lol.

Let me rephrase it then, I'm sure Bethesda will care about being "owned" when they're making millions and I'm sure the millions who will be enjoying Starfield and playing it will suddenly hate the game and be in tears when it doesn't win a "Best RPG" award, Lol. /s. This is why people take issue with your comment, the "owned in every possible way" just screams console wars (and isn't true).

  • Dragon Age Inquisition "owned" Bayonetta 2, Dark Souls II, Shadow of Mordor
  • The Witcher 3 "owned" Bloodborne, Fallout 4, Metal Gear Solid V
  • Overwatch "owned" Doom, Inside, Titanfall 2, Uncharted 4.
  • Breath of the Wild "owned" Persona 5, PUBG, Super Mario Odyssey.
  • God of War "owned" Spider Man, Monster Hunter World, Red Dead Redemption 2.
  • Sekiro "owned" Resident Evil 2, Smash Bros Ultimate.
  • The Last of Us Part II "owned" Animal Crossing New Horizons, Doom Eternal, FF VII Remake, Hades.
  • It Takes Two "owned" Metroid Dread, Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart, Resident Evil Village.
  • Elden Ring "owned" God of War Ragnarok, Forbidden West, Xenoblade Chronicles 3.

Right? Does anyone say this stuff? Lol.