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hinch said:

Like the 16GB 4060Ti; that's really low bandwidth and VRAM amount doesn't match at all. I just think they are just too slow to react to the market where more and more games are using more memory but the progress in offerings just doesn't suffice. Even seeing 8GB cards released today at $300+ is just pure stagnation. Then I look at the actual specs and its all so lul-worthy. I just worry with the advent of both new cutting edge tech with TSMC's 3nm and GDDR7 release it will again go up, yet again. But also performance upgrade will also be decent.

The 16GB 4060Ti actually sees some significant performance gains in titles that are memory starved, removing the stuttering and inconsistent frame times in the process... And notably a massive uptick in 1% lows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_Y3E631ro8

Obviously for games that are able to fit into the 8GB frame buffer, the 16GB variant will fall short, but that won't hold true forever in this cross-generation console development period.

The issue with the 16GB 4060Ti isn't the memory capacity, performance or otherwise... It's actually the price, it should have been a 4050 tier priced part.

hinch said:

And unfortunately since the 4090 has sold so well, as did the 3090. I very much doubt they'll get rid of that moniker and name. They should really go back to the 80 tier offering top SKU for the money and the titan class being well workstation/professional grade, but people have voted with their wallets and Nvidia aren't going to go back.

High-end parts always sell well because they sell to more than just gamers, but professionals who will likely see productivity/profit gains from the increased performance headroom.

I.E. CGI can justify upgrading to the latest and greatest every year because of increased development productivity.

Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Yea the main issue is that there is a lack of competition. Nvidia can get away with their shenanigans because the market allows them to and Radeon isn't doing anything about it. Like the 4060 8GB for example. Terrible card and easy win for Radeon. What do they do? Release a 7600 with 8GB of vram for slightly cheaper. The 4060 Ti base model comes with 8GB of Vram as well and should be an easy win for Radeon. What do they do? Lets release their 7700XT in September... Which by the time that happens, the 4060 Ti 16GB will likely come down to $400 vs the rumoured price of $450 of 7700XT and 4070 will likely come down to $500. And the list goes on. What Radeon doesn't understand or has given up completely on is the fact that Nvidia is the default choice and it is up to Radeon or Intel to give people a reason to not buy Nvidia. If Radeon is basically just Nvidia + 5-10% performance at similar prices, people won't switch because Nvidia has the feature set to sway buyers like DLSS, Ray Tracing, Reflex etc.

Yeah, should have been an easy win for AMD, especially after chest-beating how important vram is, but then only including 8GB on the 7600.

But to their credit, the 7600 doesn't exist in a vacuum, the 12GB 6700XT/6750XT can be found for about the same price and is definitely the superior buy to everything else in regards to price/performance on the market.

The 7600 doesn't even make sense if you are a Radeon 6600 owner... It's a shit product.

AMD and nVidia are chasing profit margins and not volume this generation and it shows.

We need Intel to start taking more marketshare to apply pressure to our two incumbents in the GPU space.



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