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TallSilhouette said:

How far back are we talking? Cuz that stuff is basically as old as competitive online shooters themselves.

Personally I moved away from online PvP when I realized I was only having fun when I was dominating the field and I could play for hours and still leave the game pissed off. Maybe it's different in the live service era but 'back in my day' it was also kind of a repetitive waste of time where you never really accomplished or experienced anything new; a thousand hours in SP games could take you on all kinds of varied adventures and make you richer for the experience. A thousand hours in a conventional competitive shooter or fighting game just gits you gudder at shooting or beating people up (virtually).

Late 90's/early 00's LAN gaming for me, and it wasn't until Halo first coming out and doing online that I started seeing people rely more and more on those type of tactics. 

I know we've seen videos since Quake and co of the bunny hopper, but not everyone I played with or ran into was as spammy as the videos suggest. Funnily enough, my first time during Halo's early online was a different experience to me compared to now. Back then people actually used terrain for their advantage, or the tank, or go for the spartan laser, but they would normally go for the biggest OP thing, and that was the go-to tactic, but that was all I had to mainly deal with in that game as one example.

My experiences from back then are completely different from today's, because current time PVP feels extremely sweaty and janky in terms of strat/movement (like that one dude 2 nights ago literally hugging around my body in circles while throwing fire bombs in my face, like dude can take some distance to circle strafe me?).

I mean tbf, you leaving is but one of the reasons I also left. PVP is mostly about the win, we are mostly coded like that as a species, it's not like we love to lose a lot, we love winning, because it gives you that dope hit, increases your morale, but winning all the time can also bore you quickly, which is why it is often best to seek a higher challenge.

I will say to you nw, that I absolutely do not fucking miss the 360 days, where I'd hop on MW2 online and get wasted over and over again by some kid using a lag switcher and using the scout knife/desert mag akimbo, while also tea bagging your corpse and yelling down his poorly bought store mic "in yo face, eat it sucka".

Like we still get that today, and that's kinda when online gaming to me felt like it had grown and become more juvenile, and that to me is when being a gentleman and playing by some rules (not all of them), stopped being thought about entirely. There is a super rare chance out there, where you will find that one nice friendly guy who will want to rematch with you or simply spar with you, and to that I say "go for it", because those ppl are rare in today's PVP, and make worthwhile friends. 



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