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Azzanation said:
Machiavellian said:

Sony and Nintendo already lose their cut of Halo and Elder Scrolls, from what I have seen from both of them, they are not hurting.  Not only are they not hurting but their own IP seem to be doing extreamly well.  Then when we look at being the only 2 consoles on the market, that means they even get more developer support on their platform increasing their cash flow and expanding their services.  GP would be regulated to PC maybe mobile but without hardware, why would anyone put their games on GP when they can put their games on PS+ and Nintendo Online services.  Yeah, I am not seeing Sony or Nintendo caring not having MS games as they do not care today about not having MS games.

MS still need to focus on hardware. You continue to ignore this point.  Series X runs XCloud, what will be running XCloud in the future???

MS had to sell their games on Steam because the MS store sucks.  If MS did not sell on Steam, MS would be doing terrible on PC.  MS is more dependent on Steam selling their games than anything else.  What you stated before is that MS would try to directly compete against Steam in a way that would put them at odds with valve which would probably not be in MS best interest if they have no hardware. If MS is dependent on Steam today for PC sales just think how much dependent they would be when they leave the console space.

GP is already available on a lot of devices.  I can today, access GP on my Android phone, my IPAD pro, my PC and my Xbox.  

Anyway, I believe we have exhausted this topic as we are just rehashing the same points.  I will leave it with what Phil stated is their focus which is console, PC and mobile.  When you show Phil changing that focus to XCloud then we can revisit but until then, MS isn't leaving the hardware market nor can they afford to do so.

Okay before you go, accouple things. 

First, this isnt about Sony and Nintendo doing well without MS games, its always about doing better with Corparate mentality. If their is revenue to gain with GP, its on the minds of shareholders etc.

Second, MS compete with Steam the same way MS compete with Playstation. Steam has no issue selling MS games on its Storefront considering MS are a direct competitor to Steam at the same time. No different to Sony and Nintendo. So again why would Sony and Nintendo say no to free revenue gain? Steam also has no issues for GP running on Steamdeck either. So again, why would others say no?

Third, GP can sell on its own with its own 1st party outings. Why do you think MS want to release 4 AAA games a year? To drive GP subscribers. In the coming years, GP will have plenty of 1st party titles, big and small to offer its customers. MS own some of the biggest franchises in the industry that gamers arent going to ignore, especially Sony and Nintendo when they see a protential boost in furthering sales. ABK will only support this fact.

Casuals will flock to GP to play CoD and that might be the only way Sony can gain CoD in the future, but based on what your saying, they are comfortable, they dont care if they lose out on CoD billions because they are doing just fine. I dont believe thats how the industry works.

People will pay 3 times the price to buy CoD to play CoD "for free" on GP?



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