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Ka-pi96 said:

Win the treble with the 2nd richest club in Spain = meh.

Win the league with the 2nd richest club in Germany = WOW!

Like yeah you can't be serious with this comparison lmao.

Barcelona won the Champions League shortly before Guardiola took over and won it again shortly after he left. They had a golden generation of talents including arguably the greatest player of all time and they were winning trophies with or without Pep. Were they better when he was there? Probably. But they would've won stuff anyway.

Dortmund were fucking shit when Klopp took over, he took them to back-to-back Bundesliga trophies and a Champions League final. Look at the list of Bundesliga winners since he left and that tells you all you need to know about how insane Klopp's achievement there was.