Blood_Tears said:
Also why some Japanese games are skipping the Xbox platform as they are waiting for the Gamepass bag of money. That's a problem MS has created with these deals. Their fans whine about it online with certain games so MS moves down the line to give money to this dev and that dev trying to put out fires at every turn. Meanwhile there is always Japanese publishers knowing this and that's why they are holding out on certain games waiting to be paid and there's no shortage of whining online for MS to take their cues from. Atlus knows this and knows where the majority of the fan base for Persona is as they will get proper sales from those platforms as well as they get MS money for PR and marketing for those fans to buy the game on other platforms and serves the minority fan base on Xbox in the same breath. |
I mean, it would be interesting to know if this really is a strongly held belief among many Japanese (or other) publishers. But one thing that does seem clear is that you rarely get major 3rd party releases doing day 1 on gamepass. There are some good gets of course, like P3R and P5T, but big IP don't need it. Which I think creates a somewhat of an issue when trying to secure the bigger deals.
gtotheunit91 said:
Now you're contradicting yourself. Just don't compare GP deals to what Sony pulls. MS using GP deals to benefit their ecosystem? Yes. The same as a moneyhat that Sony does? No. The difference? One playerbase is still getting a game and the other is NOT. |
No contradiction mate. because like I have already said, I'm not saying that an exclusive game is like a day 1 gamepass release. As long as a console maker is giving money to a 3rd party for some kind of deal, it's a moneyhat, regardless of whatever that deal ends up being.
Were Atlus willingly going to MS to put P3R and P5T onto gamepass? From the sounds of your own words, no. MS dropped some money bags to make it happen, and as far as I'm concerned, that's a moneyhat in it's own right.
If you want to make some semantic distinction between 'moneyhatting' and just a 'GP bag' like you did in my original quote of you, then you can. But I think that's just silly, because the action of dropping money for some form of preferential treatment doesn't change regardless of what the outcome is. The end result may be different, and we can all agree that to be true, but how they got there is not as different as you want to frame it to be.
But that's just my 2 cents. i honestly don't care either way. MS is doing what they think will help them. Sony is doing what they think will help them.
| haxxiy said: Apparently, Reloaded is just vanilla Persona 3 without any of the FES or Portable features, which is lame AF. Especially considering vanilla Persona 3 aged quite a bit compared to the later releases. |
Sounds like that is a bad thing. Wasn't there a remastered version available too? Which version was that? FES?
