| crissindahouse said: People shouldn't expect wonders. Russia had a lot of time to fortify like crazy. Rows after rows with thousands of mines and trenches and artillery aiming at the positions where attacks are most likely. And if Russian soldiers have to give up a position they have a lot of back-up positions with new trenches and so on... that's all something they didn't have when Ukraine stormed Russian troops around Kherson, Kharkiv, Izium and other important cities/areas. It would be also crazy to throw everything at the fortified position now without trying to check which ways could be the "easiest". Too bad the West didn't act faster with the necessary equipment and the weather was also shitty especially for those heavy tanks. That definitely helped Russia to make it much harder for Ukraine and will cost more lives as it was necessary. But they will still succeed over the long run. |
I'm with you that it's going to be incredibly hard to get past the defensive lines, in fact, likely the hardest part. However, if they do find a breakthrough, I would not be surprised if we see another Russian collapse, I don't think the Mobiks at the back are expecting Ukrainians to break the defensive lines. It all comes down to if Ukraine can achieve a breakthrough.
But it won't be instantaneous and combined arms offensives are incredibly difficult to do, even for western nations who train regularly on this stuff, Ukraine has a lot of commanders still stuck in their Soviet era thinking. The new brigades sound like they're formed mostly of young leaders though who should adapt better.
Kharkiv was more that Russia did have fortified lines but only one, Lmao. Once Ukraine broke-through one it was just a complete collapse.
Ukraine right now is still probing Imo, their new brigades haven't yet been sighted, it's minor offensives across the frontline trying to find a weakness. It's going to be a crazy few days, and Ukraine has gone dark so a lot of the sourcing will be Russians...So we'll have to take some of that with a grain of salt, sometimes those sources can claim Ukraine made a breakthrough only so they can later claim to have pushed them back and killed them all.
This part is going to be very difficult, and come at the cost of a lot of Ukrainian lives...We let them fortify for too long by dragging our feet.
Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 05 June 2023
