I'm getting a weird deja vu feeling.
| Ryuu96 said: Not really a comment on who has better shows, it's all personal opinions, I've liked Xbox's more but I am an Xbox fan for a reason. I don't really judge shows in hindsight because at the end of the day, these showcases are nothing more than marketing tools and as such it's the marketing which should be judged, nobody can predict for certain when a title announced at a showcase will release or what quality it will release at but they can judge the quality of the marketing at the time of the showcase. Great announcements remain great announcements even if the final product hasn't yet released and changing on hindsight will mean changing a lot, lets use 2020 for example, if you change your opinion on the show to (lets say average) because the games have not yet released but then the games do release (to critical acclaim) does that show suddenly become one of the best shows ever? Marketing is wholly separate from the development team, we should be judging the marketing team. It ain't like we can play any of these games at the showcases until their release months - years later so we can't judge quality of the game itself. Imo it's irrelevant to the marketing quality if the game has yet to be released. 2018 and 2020 did their jobs in generating excitement for the Xbox brand and renewing faith in it, it's not the marketing teams fault that the games have not yet released, but I would say the marketing should be showing these games more often or giving updates on their development progress. At the time I can only judge the showcase on what I was shown. Sony's E3 of Dreams was considered amazing at the time, Shenmue was a huge hyped announcement but a disaster on release but it doesn't change that at the time the announcement was hugely well received. I judge the showcases on what I felt at the time and not what I feel now years later because that will constantly be shifting. Shenmue being a dud doesn't change how well received the showcase was. |
Yeah, the shows are fun in and of themselves. Give gamers something to look forward to. Plenty of times reaction videos are a lot of fun too.
| konnichiwa said: 100.000 fans gave up on the possible existence of Shenmue 3, they all wanted it so much but knew it was an impossible dream....So yeah ofcourse the announcement was huge, the fact that the game could exist was the dream coming true, similar vibe with Nintendo fans who gave on the Gamecube and accepted that Nintendo was going to stay kiddo and bam then a amazing looking Twilight dreams was announced....Or similar when a new New half life was announced even being VR did not matter... |
MS is definitely putting in a lot of effort.
But these things take a lot of time. It usually takes 6+ years to make a game. If MS were to start 10 studios right now or something, it would likely be 2029 before most of them put out games.
| konnichiwa said: - Holding the controller for the first time and see how it only got like an extra button makes it like they did not put much thought on it.....Well it is Fine for the gamers - Yeah great that you can have an external SSD card for Xbox but it is still so expensive....Making it Fine instead of great - Based on the comments in this thread the last years services like Gold doesn't even come close to being Fine, it really feels like they don't put any effort in the service and I would say stop with gold and make online free. - Gamepass was on top but also dipped a bit in the last year and that's the only thing that feels like they put atleast some effort in... - Games in general, to name one thats going to be important later this year and could have his own controversy: The game really feels like it is going to launch in a Forza Motorsport infinite situation, launch with not that much content and promises with updates later... - Deals, hate them love them whatever but it really feels like at a meeting someone mentioned that Sony has + 20 deals and the answer was 'Thats Fine we have Naraka, Crossfire, Ark 2, Kojima Cloud game and Stalker 2 those games will define the Xbox series games experience...
And yeah they have remasters but they also put a lot of effort in making games and even had time to come up with VR.... Honestly doing more than what you may expected so yeah aiming for the 10/10 effort leading to Fans being happy, Gamers in general being happy, Reviewers being happy, Streamers being happy, Media being happy to even non gamers being happy with shows like The Last of US... Lastly the discussion about Sony's and Xbox showcase doesn't mean so much when Sony will also have audience with geoffs summer of gaming event (death stranding 2), Tokyo game show where Ms only seems to announce games that were on Playstation and then oh boy we have the award show at the end of the year... |
A lot of these things are very subjective.
Xbox controller is considered by a lot of people to be the best. Whereas Sony had more to work on, and more to prove.
I haven't seen many people say that Gamepass has fallen behind. Plenty of people are pretty happy with what PS+ Extra is, but generally I think most people prefer Gamepass. I doubt 25 million people are on PS+ Extra.
It's a good thing there's a showcase coming soon so that we can see what games MS is making or otherwise bringing to their platform.
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