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Even the CMA gives better replies anyway could have elaborated atleast on the comment or don't say anything at all. - Holding the controller for the first time and see how it only got like an extra button makes it like they did not put much thought on it.....Well it is Fine for the gamers - Yeah great that you can have an external SSD card for Xbox but it is still so expensive....Making it Fine instead of great - Based on the comments in this thread the last years services like Gold doesn't even come close to being Fine, it really feels like they don't put any effort in the service and I would say stop with gold and make online free. - Gamepass was on top but also dipped a bit in the last year and that's the only thing that feels like they put atleast some effort in... - Games in general, to name one thats going to be important later this year and could have his own controversy: The game really feels like it is going to launch in a Forza Motorsport infinite situation, launch with not that much content and promises with updates later... - Deals, hate them love them whatever but it really feels like at a meeting someone mentioned that Sony has + 20 deals and the answer was 'Thats Fine we have Naraka, Crossfire, Ark 2, Kojima Cloud game and Stalker 2 those games will define the Xbox series games experience...
And yeah they have remasters but they also put a lot of effort in making games and even had time to come up with VR.... Honestly doing more than what you may expected so yeah aiming for the 10/10 effort leading to Fans being happy, Gamers in general being happy, Reviewers being happy, Streamers being happy, Media being happy to even non gamers being happy with shows like The Last of US... Lastly the discussion about Sony's and Xbox showcase doesn't mean so much when Sony will also have audience with geoffs summer of gaming event (death stranding 2), Tokyo game show where Ms only seems to announce games that were on Playstation and then oh boy we have the award show at the end of the year... |
kk, going to take the time to answer I guess:
Your "fine" is purely based on your personal taste and you totally have the right to be unhappy or prefer the way Sony is doing it, but this has nothing to do with Microsoft not "trying" hard enough..
- Booting up the series console for the first time and seeing the dashboard just felt like a continuation of the Xbox one gen not bad not great, just Fine
Microsoft is going for consistency between all devices. I mean, this is not about being fine or not, it is about different vision and goals. Sony does NOT want continuation, they effectively are the Apple of the console market, they want people to sunk up as many money as they can suck out of their customers every generation. So yes, having that flashy start up screen will make them happy, Microsoft is not doing that (and frankly at this point we are arguing about doing something that more pro-consumer versus the other)
- Holding the controller for the first time and see how it only got like an extra button makes it like they did not put much thought on it.....Well it is Fine for the gamers
See point #1. With a caveat, Sony came up with a new feature (like or not, I don't but it is still a new feature). Microsoft could def. do that to and it will be welcomed BUT again, you can play Xbox Series games with Xbox One controllers... That's a PLUS for consumers...
<- Yeah great that you can have an external SSD card for Xbox but it is still so expensive....Making it Fine instead of great
Definitely debatable... I mean both solutions have pros and cons, but having to disassemble my console to add some storage instead of a more expensive solution are both "Great" or "fine", but I would not say that one is better than another.
- Based on the comments in this thread the last years services like Gold doesn't even come close to being Fine, it really feels like they don't put any effort in the service and I would say stop with gold and make online free.
The new "service" is GamePass. And it IS better than what Sony has to offer... Compare apples and apples...
- Gamepass was on top but also dipped a bit in the last year and that's the only thing that feels like they put atleast some effort in...
What are you talking about? GamePass is still on top AND they are putting a LOT of effort in it, where were you for the past few months?
- Games in general, to name one thats going to be important later this year and could have his own controversy:
Forza Motorsport, fans are not happy with what's known so far, the amount of tracks and cars (only FM1 and FM2 had less) have them worried.
The game really feels like it is going to launch in a Forza Motorsport infinite situation, launch with not that much content and promises with updates later...
It gets even worse if you know that later on they changed the car list and removed some of them with a message basically saying that they are not in the base game and you can acquire them later one in some ways (battlepass? DLC? Events?) the worst that can happen is that the executives are Fine with it and release it in a state that the Forza community doesn't want....
Where are you getting that? This game is not even out yet, we have no details and you are coming up with a lot of speculations. This should not even be a key point.
- Deals, hate them love them whatever but it really feels like at a meeting someone mentioned that Sony has + 20 deals and the answer was 'Thats Fine we have Naraka, Crossfire, Ark 2, Kojima Cloud game and Stalker 2 those games will define the Xbox series games experience...
This is the same thing coming up over and over... Deals for Sony cost like 3 or 4 times less MONEY to make than Xbox. And NO, Xbox is NOT Microsoft as a whole, they have their own budget and can get only a fraction of those because of the marketshare. Nobody said it is "fine". But it is what they can do.
And yeah they have remasters but they also put a lot of effort in making games and even had time to come up with VR.... Honestly doing more than what you may expected so yeah aiming for the 10/10 effort leading to Fans being happy, Gamers in general being happy, Reviewers being happy, Streamers being happy, Media being happy to even non gamers being happy with shows like The Last of US...
This is because they have 70%+ of the marketshare... Of course people will notice, make noise, talk, be happy something new comes for their ecosystem, whatever Sony does more. Sony just closed a studio, and nobody gave a shit, Microsoft is going to remove one soda dispenser from the cafeteria of one of their Studios, people will riot and streamers will be after their butt for it...
One game came out with a bad score, and it is the end of Xbox for some and they will still be talking about for months...
Forspokan was bad as hell, people already stopped talking about it 30 minutes after the game came out...
Your whole stance about Microsoft being okay with "fine" or "6/10" makes no sense. No business out there will be 'fine' with that. They are all trying to do their best with whatever tools they have and thinking otherwise is a bit naive (no disrespect there). And they also have very different goals.
Last edited by Imaginedvl - on 23 May 2023
