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Chazore said:

Captain_Yuri said:

I am not too sure why you keep blaming only Nvidia for using DLSS in their marketing but for whatever reason, you are ignoring the fact that Radeon is also using FSR significantly in their marketing. In my view, I see both Nvidia and Radeon being shit companies just that Nvidia gives more features (and in the case of the 4090, significantly more brute force) while Radeon doesn't hence why I recommend them.

I also don't have any hopes that AMD will topple Nvidia this console gen. That's why I came to the conclusion that the market this console gen for PC GPUs will largely be fucked. Hence why I went out there and bought a 4090 with the crypto money I got. Cause if Radeon is on a downwards trend and Intel is too far behind, may as well get a 4090 in my case and just ride the waves.

See, this is why a few weeks ago, I was hinting at the whole point of you owning the 4090 and letting that influence your viewpoint, but I don't think you got that hint I was trying to show you.

I have beef with nvidia, because they aren't Valve, who earned that 80% of the market, not the way Valve did, hence why I see those two differently. Epic has the money to keep tossing to buy their way into market share, but AMD just doesn't, otherwise we'd have seen that by now in shorter time.

Also AMD mostly designs their tech as open source, while Nvidia is always closed, and as we've seen the open tech tends to get better adoption later on with time.

Yeah, I can see why you got the 4090, but well, I can't, hence why I'm still miffed at Nvidia for 3 gens now.

I don't think me buying a 4090 influenced my viewpoint all that much since I have been recommending people who can't afford a 4090 to skip this gen. That's basically me telling 99% of the customers out there to not buy their products lol because only 1% of the buyers out there buy products in the 4090 price range.

Also if Valve is your standard for market leadership, then you have a beef with 90%+ of the companies out there. There is almost no other company on the planet like Valve. Not to mention the fact that Valve is not a publicly traded company means that they can make a lot of decisions that companies like Nvidia, AMD, Intel can't.

There has been countless open source projects that also get abandoned or go no where. Open source doesn't mean it's an automatic win if the technology is subpar to the closed source version. I have no doubt that eventually someone will come out with an Ai based upscaler similar to DLSS that will be platform agnostic and kill DLSS and get widely adopted. But who knows how long that will take and those that are buying a GPU now aren't looking at what could happen 6 years from now. Not to mention when it does happen, the DLSS killer will also work on Nvidia GPUs so Nvidia owners don't lose anything.

And yes, I agree that you and really 90%+ of the people out there can't afford a 4090 and even if you could, it's a hard pill to swallow for a gaming GPU. And you have every right to be miffed with Nvidia and not buy their products. But imo, this isn't an Nvidia only problem. It's a GPU industry wide problem. But there is a chance that next gen could be different similar to Ampere after Turing. So I'd either wait and see if this gen gets heavily discounted enough, especially with refreshes that made Turing more reasonable or just wait till Blackwell and see how it goes.