| Azzanation said: PS3 lost Sony $5b and 360 lost MS $3b. Xbox 360 and PS3 losses total $8 billion, ex-Sony employee paints grim future | VG247 |
Seems your ability to comprehend is limited in this instance... And your evidence is shoddy.
The link asserts that Sony spent almost 5 billion and Microsoft spent almost 3 billion.
This isn't "losses" but rather "investment". All in the wording.
The article also states it's the consoles themselves which loose money, not the division itself, that is loosing money... And we know the Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 eventually became profitable because Sony and Microsoft said as much.
The article is also built upon "assumptions" as literally headlined via Kotaku, so I rest my case.
https://www.destructoid.com/playstation-3-is-finally-profitable/
https://www.gamedeveloper.com/business/microsoft-s-xbox-360-division-sees-1-32-billion-profit-for-fiscal-year-2011
| Azzanation said: As for the rest, I disagree with your Sega analogy. History show shown time and time again that with 3 consoles, 1 gets burnt. |
AGAIN. Sega failed with only a SINGLE competitor.
Sega's failure isn't due to there being significant competition, it was due to their own silly decisions, much like Microsoft with the Xbox One and Nintendo with the WiiU and Sony with the Vita.
Have you ever thought that there is more to a product failing than just being "to much" competition and rather just shit product decisions?
| Azzanation said: You have proven zero benefits customers gain from EGS yet i have supplied reasons why customers don't like EGS. |
I literally listed some.
I will re-quote as your ability to read seems limited during our discussion.
| Pemalite said: 3) Steam having less cut for games, means more money for developers, which means less sales required for developers to turn a profit and keep making games. - This is basic business sense. - More games benefits the consumers. |
You are going to *have* to do better with your rebuttals and stop propagating blatant lies.
| Azzanation said: Yet you felt the need to say the opposite to what I was saying? |
You aren't reading what I am saying and just making up your own fairytale, I suggest you go back and re-read the replies in their intended context.
| Azzanation said: Yes and i have been saying this, yet it seems this seems to be a arguments case? |
Lies.
Go back and re-read the replies in their intended context.
| Azzanation said: Its based on business logic. |
You have provided the necessary empirical evidence that showcases the majority of your replies and fabrications are based on "hypothetical's" rather than real world events or evidence. - I have no idea why, nor do I care, but I will provide a rebuttal when you are blatantly wrong and being disingenuous like you have been.
| Azzanation said: And that's because they havent released anything for 2 years apart from Pentiment and Hi Fi Rush. I hope you dont believe 20+ studios are not just sitting around twiddling their thumbs, otherwise that would require a facepalm. |
Another lie.
Microsoft is struggling with quality, not just quantity.
Redfall being the latest in exclusive jokes... Or let's not forget crackdown back in 2019? Halo Infinite failed to achieve greatness along the lines of Halo 1-2-3-Reach. What about Fallout 76? I can go on, but I think you (hopefully) get my point.
I never asserted that I believe 20+ studios are sitting around twiddling their thumbs, that is your lie, not mine.
...But considering we are still waiting on Fable, Perfect Dark, Starfield, Hellblade 2, Elderscrolls 6, Everwild and more which have all been announced but no further information/delays/no release date... Doesn't leave much faith in Microsoft being able to push Gamepass with quality titles... We don't know if they will even be decent games considering the current track record.
Their game output hasn't been great, the Xbox One was poorly supported in terms of exclusives and that is still on-going with the Series consoles, that -will not- change even if Microsoft abandons the console market, their game developers and hardware developers are separate entities.
It's also why I support Microsoft buying Activision Blizzard, Microsoft will finally get some more noteworthy games.
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