| Captain_Yuri said: Well if that is the case, then the clock is ticking cause Blackwell could come out next year. Yea the lower down the stack you go, the less impressive the gains have been since Turing era. Quite the shame really considering how 60 series once used to defeat the previous gen 80 series. Idk why people keep suggesting Nvidia will leave the gaming market where they hold over 80% of the market share. Like has there ever been a case of a business saying "Welp we hold 80%+ market share of a highly profitable industry, lets just leave for the luls?" Like Nvidia made 1.8 Billion dollars in gaming vs 3.6 Billion dollars in Datacenter Q4 FY23. That's no small chunk in revenue to just say, yea lets leave something that they have a guaranteed win in every generation. Plus if Nvidia leaves and Radeon becomes the dominant player, you think the industry will be any better? If anything, the GPU market will be significantly worse when you realize that when AMD had market dominance against Intels CPU with Zen 3, they refused to launch proper budget CPUs for nearly 1.5 years after the initial release Zen 3. It took Intel to launch Alder Lake before AMD bothered to release a proper CPU in the budget segment as they were riding the success of Zen 3 to their fullest extent. |
Yeah, but why hold onto a market you clearly aren't going to make much from over the long-term, the more you keep going hardcore into shafting your customers?.
Like this is it, the past 3-4years have been Nvidia going more and more into sicko mode against customers, seeing what they will/won't tolerate, and their focus on the Crypto bros and AI markets and Ai cars are showing this.
Yes 80% of the market, but what else are they actually doing within that market that isn't DLSS branding out the wazoo, a 4090 barely many can afford, and a whole stack that are just price horribly and not doing much compared to last gen cards?. You can have that market share, but you ain't going to have it in 100 years, like it's been written in stone or something.
I know where their interests lie, because if it was us, truly us, the gamers, they wouldn't be going this hardcore into giving us the worst line-up and experience and relying so damn hard on one piece of tech to carry their perf metrics along. Like remember hairworks?, where's that at?.
I'm not saying Nvidia is going to leave overnight, like turn the lights off "we're done lads", but look at how it took Konami years to fcuk themselves out of the core gaming market. There is only and truly so much fucking around you can do as a corp to your customer base, before you either fuck off to another market and test those customers out, or reform and treat your existing customers fairly, before they decide to just straight up move on.
What I'm trying to say is, we cannot have a repeat of this gen and last gen ad infimum, because it's not going to pay off, and the course of relying on the band aid of DLSS won't last long either, before people start to notice, and DLSS won't be here for 50yrs either, so they'll need to come up with some new marketing gimmick to keep ppl hooked, and that song and dance can also only go on for so long.
Also, like you pointed out with the data centers, they still made more there than with gaming, and yes, while it's no small chunk, it's still small when you look at the rising tech of AI and the general scope of where we're headed, it'll only get smaller as time goes on (remember how we were once the money makers of the industry?, well mobile now dwarfs PC and console gaming combined, and again, it'll only get smaller as time goes on).
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