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Ryuu96 on 17 May 2023
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LurkerJ said:

Erdogan is on course to win another election, as if Putin needed more allies to cling to power. A thoroughly disappointing result.

Yup. He has won for sure, very disappointing.

However, I wouldn't call Erdogan an ally of Putin, their relationship is way more complicated than that. Erdogan is happy to screw over Putin just as much as he's happy to screw over the West. Erdogan closed the Black Sea to Russia's ships, Turkey shot down a Russian jet once and they have proxy fights against each other in other lands by backing rival factions.

As an example, Turkey and Russia back rival factions in Syria. Russia supports the PKK which Turkey designates as a terrorist group. Then of course, Turkey has been a good ally at supplying Ukraine with deadly drones to kill Russians. Erdogan is just a slimy MF who does whatever benefits him most, he has no allegiances or true friendships, Imo, that dude would backstab Europe just as equally as Russia.

One minute he's shaking hands with Putin, laughing and joking, next minute Turkey is killing Russian backed factions or supplying Ukraine equipment to kill Russians, then bitching at Europe for whatever reason he's upset with us now then having a moan at Sweden and threatening Greece (cause he's a fucking dick, Lol).

I don't think we need to be worried about Erdogan in relation to Ukraine but it would have been nice to see him gone because he's a massive dick either way, a horrible man and his opponent was expressing desire to improve relations with Europe and support Sweden's application for NATO and be even harsher on Russia than Turkey is currently being.

Also...Orban without Erdogan would have been on his own, that little coward wouldn't continue being an issue without Turkey backing him up. Sucks...Ukraine will be fine but we'll have to find other ways to pressure Erdogan into doing stuff such as allowing Sweden into NATO but that likely means giving into shitty demands of Erdogan and supplying a monster with military equipment.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 17 May 2023